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Regardless, while you guys discuss here over stuff you're guessing, some staff (not me as I can't atm) are with Numbers discussing this situation. Let's not make it harder for them by creating rumours and whataboutisms.
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there is no "rebel groups fighting each other for power
feels like this is a pretty fundamental element to successful player retention

right now from what little ive played it feels like an extended version of finis coronat opus with maybe a little less rp in regards to players being able to pick sides/collaborate
 
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feels like this is a pretty fundamental element to successful player retention

right now from what little ive played it feels like an extended version of finis coronat opus with maybe a little less rp in regards to players being able to pick sides/collaborate
There's so much RP, if you're willing to just not go out and S2K at every opportunity
 
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feels like this is a pretty fundamental element to successful player retention

right now from what little ive played it feels like an extended version of finis coronat opus with maybe a little less rp in regards to players being able to pick sides/collaborate
stuff is happening

the problem is it's done behind the scenes (so we don't have the cop min-max brigade ruin things, for a start) while others run around screaming that people aren't doing anything because they don't know.

as for the cop side they turned away valuable informants because they couldn't be bothered, so y'know, same as it usually is.
 
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as for the cop side they turned away valuable informants because they couldn't be bothered, so y'know, same as it usually is.

Tbf there are informants and stuff, its just not made obvious (naturally).
 

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Tbf there are informants and stuff, its just not made obvious (naturally).
Still, the more the merrier.

All they wanted was a basketball, which is ludicrously cheap, and that was still too hard?
 

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stuff is happening

the problem is it's done behind the scenes (so we don't have the cop min-max brigade ruin things, for a start) while others run around screaming that people aren't doing anything because they don't know.

as for the cop side they turned away valuable informants because they couldn't be bothered, so y'know, same as it usually is.
 
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Also you can't really force rebels to fight eachother, tbh, because invariably they get tired of it because they're the only backdrop they have. They can't wander off and do other things or focus on other things to detox.

It worked well in the city because you had groups OOCly invested in retraining power and access to resources; they'd pick fights and kill to keep that sort of control - as crappy as it was for everyone else.
 
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It worked well in the city because you had groups OOCly invested in retraining power and access to resources; they'd pick fights and kill to keep that sort of control - as crappy as it was for everyone else.
It also worked because the occupation was in full swing and any outside help (LAMBDA, etc) were too busy elsewhere.

You fought and died over the scraps on offer, and unless you were willing to crack cop/loyalist skulls (or rip off/kill your own people) you didn't inch on from there.

Out here there's plenty to get for free, with the only real obstacle being the remnant forces & aliens. What's the point of fighting over nothing when it's abundant?

don't act like we're all simman
You're only as good as your leadership when they get to call the shots.
 

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You're only as good as your leadership when they get to call the shots.
i noticed in your vocabulary you were including the faction at a grand scale over a single decision which, as you said, many cannot influence because they don't call the shots. I'd prefer it be ''i didn't like that the RL turned all this shit down" ( a very reasonable take ).
i for one would have loved to ball with the homies.
 
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for fielders situation, what i didnt like is that his timer was set to 24 hours for today, but his death was nailed halfway thru that timer which is a breach of that agreement

it should have been done at final hour, and that agreement shouldve been "we will use ur vort to charge the beam at this hour if ur not on"

so instead of 24 hours flat, it couldve been 32 hours or whatever (until the next 7pm gmt/peak time) that they decide to use him, rather than a random point within those 24 hours while hes not on


if that makes any sense???
 

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It also worked because the occupation was in full swing and any outside help (LAMBDA, etc) were too busy elsewhere.

You fought and died over the scraps on offer, and unless you were willing to crack cop/loyalist skulls (or rip off/kill your own people) you didn't inch on from there.

And even then eventually people literally stopped trying to fight because they wanted their characters to live and get in on the cool stuff.

The days of "lets make groups to challenge the status quo" died a very quick death because it was literally more suicidal and you lasted less time against other rebels than you did making some criminal slum group lmao.
 
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some quick points on the firebug situation:

1. combine mortar was never supposed to be fired unless firebug was already in the pod & drained for his power, so it being fired today gave rebels the indication that he was already inside of it and siphoned to death

2. there was a lack of clarification on the idea that rebels "would have 24 hours to rescue firebug after he entered the pod" (i literally was never told about this i dont know where brandon is pulling it from)

3. the pod in the first place was spotted ICly yesterday while the rebels were on a separate job, which was part of the intelligence they had in anticipating his final drainage session

4. firebug should have had a good escape two days ago regardless; he climbed over a hole in the wall legitimately but was teleported into a mine via staff error. at the time we NLRed him and gave him an extra day but had that not happened it was a near guaranteed that he'd have made off into the rebel side before cops even knew what was happening

5. in the end, another vortigaunt died instead; and was likely already dead. not this "oOOuhh rebels Killed Their OWn Vort" shit. you don't get to spitefully slander rebel actions when you haven't telegraphed the conflict effectively to them over information that should be widely available.
 
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And even then eventually people literally stopped trying to fight because they wanted their characters to live and get in on the cool stuff.

The days of "lets make groups to challenge the status quo" died a very quick death because it was literally more suicidal and you lasted less time against other rebels than you did making some criminal slum group lmao.
the kobayashi conflict didnt even last a month, it's fun in short bursts but ultimately there is always one bigger dominant group that takes over for a while
 
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