Serious unofficial HL2RP² launch feedback thread

[Deleted member 38]

if the person isn't in your group, you really cant beat the shit out of him or take his shit - unless he tried to harm you directly

and its that persons right to avoid you after you did that to him?

thats my point

how do we enforce coordination if it's just so fucking easy to ignore the person trying to enforce it

 

[MaXenzie]

Because there's need to be a level of introspection with the complaints. If I knew a rebel APC was in the field and I couldn't kill it, and nothing was at stake, I just wouldn't engage with it.

ngl you have tanked your reputation in my eyes, every single problem brought forward you have almost always been the first to dive on it and explain that no, in fact, everything is fine, in fact its the cops that suffer from this problem, not the rebels

even in the face of evidence to the contrary you then immediately start blaming the players
"oh if you weren't standing there it wouldn't have happened"
"you shouldn't have been there in the first place"
"simply don't engage the cops"

unfortunately they did, and that was what led to the problem

 

[Deleted member 38]

i dunno arguing on nebulous.cloud has always been and will always be pointless

game not fun i play game when it's fun

 

[Ron]

ngl you have tanked your reputation in my eyes, every single problem brought forward you have almost always been the first to dive on it and explain that no, in fact, everything is fine, in fact its the cops that suffer from this problem, not the rebels

even in the face of evidence to the contrary you then immediately start blaming the players
"oh if you weren't standing there it wouldn't have happened"
"you shouldn't have been there in the first place"
"simply don't engage the cops"

unfortunately they did, and that was what led to the problem

What's your realistic solution to the issue then, Maxenzie? I see you complaining but offering no solutions whatsoever.

Did I complain when I get 1 shot crossbowed last map over 5 times? No. Not everything is a crisis.

 

[OskarDemus]

thats my point

how do we enforce coordination if it's just so fucking easy to ignore the person trying to enforce it

you enforce coordination on the people who want to be? you cant force someone to do what they don't want to small groups of coordinated people can be absolute demons

 

[Numbers]

it's really annoying to try to discuss anything with you because you just have this passive-aggressive tone it just makes me not want to bother trying to improve things

see this is really ironic because if I had to sit down and sift through most of the complaints I receive, they come from this holier-than-thou style equally passive aggressive writing that's a chore to sift through

 

[MaXenzie]

What's your realistic solution to the issue then, Maxenzie? I see you complaining but offering no solutions whatsoever.

Did I complain when I get 1 shot crossbowed last map over 5 times? No. Not everything is a crisis.

there can be no solution for a problem until it is recognized as a problem

unfortunately you cant solve the problem of people being people, and doing people things.

every time i see someone critique or complain, and its immediately hit with some combination of:
- it was your fault
- the server's just not for you/stop playing
- its just the way it is
- both sides deal with this issue so its ok

i cringe

 

[OskarDemus]

see this is really ironic because if I had to sit down and sift through most of the complaints I receive, they come from this holier-than-thou style equally passive aggressive writing that's a chore to sift through

bring back CCC thread and put me in charge

cvr 2 weeks or bust

 

[Ron]

there can be no solution for a problem until it is recognized as a problem

unfortunately you cant solve the problem of people being people, and doing people things.

every time i see someone critique or complain, and its immediately hit with some combination of:
- it was your fault
- the server's just not for you/stop playing
- its just the way it is
- both sides deal with this issue so its ok

i cringe

If the only thing you can offer is complaints with no solutions that aren't 'remove it' then it's simply unconstructive and I can't work with it.

 

[STUCK IN A CAKE]

I think we give Rebels more Technicals with HMG's and Pre-War APC's that can't be damaged by small arms fire, so I can use my AT4 more

 

[MaXenzie]

If the only thing you can offer is complaints with no solutions that aren't 'remove it' then it's simply unconstructive.

i really dont get where this idea that players are the ones that need to come up with solutions to problems, or that those in charge are ever beholden to the proposed suggestions of players

you don't see game development companies invalidate complaints about characters/classes/weapons being overpowered because the player didn't suggest appropriate stat changes

what is the point in offering suggestions to solve problems when half the people in the thread don't even consider it to be a problem, or worse, they do consider it a problem, but not one worth fixing in the first place

 

[Nathant18]

see this is really ironic because if I had to sit down and sift through most of the complaints I receive, they come from this holier-than-thou style equally passive aggressive writing that's a chore to sift through

Same thing I told you when you replied to my group's auth app, I can't speak for other people but I don't believe I do this?

It just seems to me that you're generalizing the whole faction because of issues with a few people and because of that we get nowhere because you seem to view the whole rebel playerbase as whiney instead of actually addressing the problems they're raising

 

[Deleted member 38]

i dunno i'd rather people bitch and whinge instead of them just disconnecting and not rejoining because they werent having fun

its easy to say u hate people complaining but im sure you'd much rather it over them just leaving

 

['77 East]

as a cop u have to listen to every rl or every command element in general, you dont have a CHOICE

bit wrong there, there's several ways to creatively get the RL to fuck off or disobey your orders, just have to be smart about it

 

[OskarDemus]

i dunno i'd rather people bitch and whinge instead of them just disconnecting and not rejoining because they werent having fun

its easy to say u hate people complaining but im sure you'd much rather it over them just leaving

I want the worst of both all dc's and just complaints NO FUN ALLOWED ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Deleted member 38]

bit wrong there, there's several ways to creatively get the RL to fuck off or disobey your orders, just have to be smart about it

yeah u have to be smart about it

as a rebel u just say "yeah fuck that guy. what a loser." and there that's the end of it

there is no way to enforce anything as a rebel leader u just have to be the guy everybody likes and hope to christ they feel like listening to you

 

['77 East]

Technicals with HMG's and Pre-War APC's that can't be damaged by small arms fire

@Numbers break out the ww3rp vehicles

time for a t-62

 

[STUCK IN A CAKE]

@Numbers break out the ww3rp vehicles

time for a t-62

Honestly would love to see a return of the Azov Depot Vehicles

 

['77 East]

yeah u have to be smart about it

as a rebel u just say "yeah fuck that guy. what a loser." and there that's the end of it

there is no way to enforce anything as a rebel leader u just have to be the guy everybody likes and hope to christ they feel like listening to you

what happened to actually having control over resupply
if retards want to pool together and create problems, cut them off from lambda, simple

that was the whole point of the cell system

 

[Rabid]

there is no way to enforce anything as a rebel leader u just have to be the guy everybody likes and hope to christ they feel like listening to you

And then if you install any sort of staff-backed leadership, good luck on getting people to not get pissed off and complain if you're not shitting out weapons at Mach-10 lol

Problem I'm seeing is the map is so massive that obviously cops are gonna use their fridge to roll about rather than hoofing it and probably getting wiped by a rebel patrol, ala Ashville.

But then when rebels have limited Anti-Armor and you can't guarantee them being online (or having vorts handy) then yeah, I get the frustration too.