Serious On Communism.

[jarodine]

Saying natsoc is better than any other ideology

I didn't say that?

 

[Goatson]

I didn't say that?

natsoc > communism

Either you're forgetful or you don't even know what you're saying

 

[jarodine]

"natsoc > communism"
"Saying natsoc is better than any other ideology"
I only mentioned two ideologies. What do you mean by that.

 

[abcdefg]

"natsoc > communism"
"Saying natsoc is better than any other ideology"
I only mentioned two ideologies. What do you mean by that.

i think you misunderstood what he meant by 'any other ideology'. he means any individual ideology

 

[jarodine]

i think you misunderstood what he meant by 'any other ideology'. he means any individual ideology

ah ty thought he said every other ideology

 

[Goatson]

every

No I said any other as in any other single ideology, if I meant every I would have said every

 

[jarodine]

No I said any other as in any other single ideology, if I meant every I would have said every

I'm dyslexic so i'm sorry for the mix-up.

 

[Edgelord Freeman]

i have a feeling thats what you want to make yourself believe because you got countered with valid arguements lmao

No, its because people dont understand the other side just like if they dodnt want to. If you dont know what i mean, see my previous post

 

[Edgelord Freeman]

go ghost yourself you filthy commie.

If you got anything with an actual point to say; youre welcome. If not, well I am just a man who cant stop you in spreading what youre being told through your whole life

 

[GenericPlayer]

Daily reminder that Humans are greedy by nature, and having a system in place that does not give incentive for their greed will only cause issues IE; Communism, Socialism. Most people have it out for themselves, even if they wont tell you. Some get satisfaction out of helping others, but that's their incentive, satisfaction of aiding another. Yada yada, Socialism is bad. Get crunked.

Already covered that, read the previous page.

go ghost yourself you filthy commie.

Considering your profile pic, that's fucking hilarious. Was it a pun?

 

[Gimmie]

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Of course communism wouldnt work, thats because it requires all the people of the world to cooperate.

holyshit then what the fuck are you arguing for in this fucking thread youre only ruining your reputation

this world isnt a utopia, were never going to go 100% clean energy, there will always be wars and always will be starvation and poor people. communism is a failed representation of a utopia where everyone 'had equal rights and oppurtunities', 'were free and treated fairly' 'were not poor and living in terrible conditions'. and none of this works out in the end because a utopia in this world will not work and it wont ever because theres always people that have a different opinion and will ruin it for others.

please take a look at this fine example of capitalism and the fact that its worked way better than communism. There is no argument here.

 

[GenericPlayer]

communism is a failed representation of a utopia where everyone 'had equal rights and oppurtunities', 'were free and treated fairly' 'were not poor and living in terrible conditions'. and none of this works out in the end because a utopia in this world will not work and it wont ever because theres always people that have a different opinion and will ruin it for others.

You do realise that the only reason for starvation is the fact that it's not profitable to give surplus to the starving. I mean for fuck sake if the top six richest people gave ten percent of their wealth towards sorting out starvation alone, then it'd be sorted in less than a century. But they won't, because it's not profitable.

And yes, people will have a different opinion, not that it will ruin it for others. Of course, debate is needed to determine flaws in a system, thesis, antithesis, synthesis and so on.

please take a look at this fine example of capitalism and the fact that its worked way better than communism. There is no argument here.

India is a shithole, so is the Congo and most of South America. At least Russia had sorted out homelessness and gave people bread to eat, even if said homes looked shit and the bread tasted horrible, and they didn't even achieve a classless society.

Funnily enough, whenever a communist/socialist state is established, the CIA tend to start a coup and tarnish its reputation, we can look to most of South America for examples of that.

So, let's continue the conversation, or "argument" so to speak.

And Edgelord, less of the Soviet Patriotism, it's getting ridiculous.​

 

[jarodine]

(Off-topic but can someone tell me why communism isn't as demonized as national socialism? Stalin killed 10+ million people and starved his citizens. Yet people praise him for being a hero?)

 

[Ond]

(Off-topic but can someone tell me why communism isn't as demonized as national socialism? Stalin killed 10+ million people and starved his citizens. Yet people praise him for being a hero?)

he won

hitler didnt

 

[jarodine]

he won

hitler didnt

History is written by the victors i suppose

 

[GenericPlayer]

(Off-topic but can someone tell me why communism isn't as demonized as national socialism? Stalin killed 10+ million people and starved his citizens. Yet people praise him for being a hero?)

Because communism isn't restricted to the Soviet Union, or Stalin for that matter.

People like Bordiga and Luxemburg criticised the USSR, and Hungary even had their own revolution headed by Council Communists and Capitalists alike.

 

[Gimmie]

India is a shithole, so is the Congo and most of South America. At least Russia had sorted out homelessness and gave people bread to eat, even if said homes looked shit and the bread tasted horrible, and they didn't even achieve a classless society.

Funnily enough, whenever a communist/socialist state is established, the CIA tend to start a coup and tarnish its reputation, we can look to most of South America for examples of that.

So, let's continue the conversation, or "argument" so to speak.

And Edgelord, less of the Soviet Patriotism, it's getting ridiculous.​

lmao please take a look at the history of these countries and say again you have literally no fucking clue what youre talking about.

Africa is a shithole because it relies on trade in the Western civilization which it isn't getting because, for example, over here in the Netherlands in the port of Rotterdam we only allow a certain amount of supplies from Africa to pass so we dont lose jobs over here.

 

[GenericPlayer]

lmao please take a look at the history of these countries and say again you have literally no fucking clue what youre talking about.

So you're denying that India has a privatised economy and that the living conditions are awful?

Or that South America has been set up with US puppets for the past 60 years, bar Venezuela (Which even now is split between a government that wants a centralised economy and the companies in the country that oppose it).

How about the fact that the Congo has a blood diamond industry that kills countless workers for profit.

Where's your argument? If all you have are half arsed retorts then you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

 

[swexs]

criminal organisation known as the soviet union

 

[Gimmie]

So you're denying that India has a privatised economy and that the living conditions are awful?

Or that South America has been set up with US puppets for the past 60 years, bar Venezuela (Which even now is split between a government that wants a centralised economy and the companies in the country that oppose it).

How about the fact that the Congo has a blood diamond industry that kills countless workers for profit.

Where's your argument? If all you have are half arsed retorts then you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

i dont think their government was very rich to begin with seeing as they had to privatise their services. im sorry but my history extends to europe, not asia or africa so ill do my best to internet argue with you even though you know that communism has failed anyway.

south american governments have been 'set up with us puppets' because they cant do their job themselves. narcotics trade from south america to north america was killing thousands of people, making many addicts and causing homelessness. if you let criminals stroll off your border into a different country without taking any good action then yes that different country will want to stop the criminals at the source.

assessing the congo. another country with an instable government and many rebel groups, be it for religious or political power trying to make money to buy arms so they can seize control. ofcourse they will enslave people from villages to work in their mines and ofcourse this is no utopia as i have already stated, westerners will buy those diamonds if they can make profit.



now, call my replies half assed, but take a look at China. China used to be a hardcore communist country and officially it still is today. Now lets see the poverty rate in 1981; 88 percent
2016: 6.5 percent

thats funny, as soon as they allowed capitalism china had a decrease of about 62 percent poverty in only 30 years from being communist to 'officially communist' but allowing capitalism.

Yes, they profit from child labor and thats probably how they leaped out of poverty due to the high amount of profit. At least its a beginning. I guarantee you that in 30 years china wont have any more child labor in their country because the welfare will be fine.

now please stop arguing FOR communism. its a failed flawed and crap system that never worked. everyone in russia was just sick of the tsar's reign and decided to try out this new cool thing that people invented.