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hence why i edited it out because i realised it derailing lol? ??? ??

I'm not the one saying people can't change. I think they can. I'm different than I was in 2013, 2014, 2015.. so on. As for people being banned without proof, the way Mesa got banned was literally staff going out into the field and triggering his snapping. It wasn't that we spectated and recorded him.

Plus, numerous people were banned in that manner (albeit majority of them weren't really known), but I banned quite a few based on getting a 'CAKE' notification, spectating the person and banning them. Now, hopefully you'll stop trying to make this about me and you

did mesa ever use hack

Pretty sure it was mesa? Unless I'm wrong here and confusing him with someone else. But that situation happened 100%. Regardless, that's still completely a side-point of what I said or am saying. edit: I'll ask roosebud when he is about to make sure

ok but my point is 9 times out of 10 we recorded people cheating for if/when they appealed it, and if friendlyman was supposedly known to be hacking for a while, even if it was being investigated only that day on c08, why would you not take the time to set up footage and record for your sake? literally a case of professionalism and evidence

Yes, in the majority of times we did get recorded evidence, but that's because the majority of times the person witnessing it wasn't the community owner and the Server Director.

If roosebud banned someone, no one ever questioned the matter as 'he's lying proof now or die', because there is no reasonable expectation that he'd be lying, have a motive to lie and he's just trusted. He ran the server. Alex/BQ run the community and server.

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Would much rather stay away from this

It would have been easier to record it undoubtedly, I don't think anyone disagrees that it would leave 0 holes (I hope at least), but to question this, would mean we literally have to question everything that anyone ever says about anyone. It wouldn't work.

ok but even then roosebud recorded almost every scenario where he had to interject on the grounds of a rule break, did he not?

If it hadn't been Alex doing the ban in this situation, nothing would have been said. This is drama for the sake of drama, because certain people don't like Alex and want to fuck the community on their way out. I just want to play videogames and not have this bullshit everyday.

@Blue Wolf please read what I said. I'm not the one that said people never change, I believe they do. I'm grabbing the person's own criteria and applying it to themselves, in hopes they see it is ridiculous.

i don't see making an appeal and asking for evidence as trying 'to fuck the community on the way out' nor do i think it an unrealistic expectation for anyone to record a transgression despite their position

it could've been from operator to cm and it should still, rightly, be questioned

As for roosebud recording, I'm pretty sure he didn't record everything... and even if he did (he didn't, lets be honest, that would be insane), he never asked me or even you, when you were staff. Any PK or ban that you made, did roosebud ever come down and DEMAND you provide recorded evidence? Doubt it.

It can be questioned, but this is not questioning. Saying Alex is a 'lying bastard' on a profile post for absolutely no reason when the person has left the community, given the past drama rise ups, it does feel like trying to fuck the community for the sake of it.

no, because i had the integrity to record it and present it to the person in question. which i did, which you know i did, on multiple occasions. which meant he didn't have to come in; i don't see your anecdote.

a lying bastard after asking multiple times for evidence, any shred of evidence, when they supposedly 'know the citizenhack fella'? get real mate

You recorded every ban/pk you issued? Doubt it. But even if you did, I didn't (at the time, wasn't capable to due to pc quality), but I assure you, most staff didn't record every person they banned. Ridiculous criteria. If you need to record everything, we wouldn't have staff. They're trusted to be honest.

He never said he had a recording though, what is he lying about? Why would you assume he made up the cheating accusations, is there any reason he would?