Suggestion Change the kickdoor strength threshold to 30

[Ron]

Suggestion: Change the requirement to /kickdoor back to 30 instead of the (60?) it is now for citizens
Why it would be worth adding: 30 is the max strength and you shouldn't need to take drugs to kick a door down.
Necessary content: Maybe make strength gain faster too

 

[Tinbe]

Maybe make strength gain faster too

How is strength even gained? I've never had a good picture on it.

 

[Ron]

How is strength even gained? I've never had a good picture on it.

You have to melee things, but with certain weapons (like fists) they have to be specifically living things, and it takes an insane amount of hours to get even a small point gain

 

[boots]

Not sure how I feel about this. On one side you will have people who will stat-whore until they're all the way to the max in every attribute and it will be unfair to other people. On the other side, I think something could be done with the attributes system to make it more appealing and fun to mess around.

If you make point gain faster in general, then it's available for everybody to work towards on an even playing field and negates a lot of the necessity to stat-whore. I checked the other day and it takes way a ridicolous amount of time gain attributes, realistically nobody will ever be able to gain any significant amount of attributes even if you were playing 400 hours in a month.

Last iteration I was on all day everyday and barely made any progress to my attributes.

If you let players choose attributes at the beginning of character selection, you will always have a min-maxed route and it kinda ruins the fun of it. Or just go down the route of char auths for small increases done through gym RP, idk.

 

[Ricsow]

You up your strength by punching props like barrels too
Dont ask me how I know this

 

[boots]

You up your strength by punching props like barrels too
Dont ask me how I know this

I -snip for the sanctity of the game.

 

[john]

Suggestion: Change the requirement to /kickdoor back to 30 instead of the (60?) it is now for citizens
Why it would be worth adding: 30 is the max strength and you shouldn't need to take drugs to kick a door down.
Necessary content: Maybe make strength gain faster too

its 60 points but 30 strength
ala it already IS this way, max citizen strength lets you kick doors
you dont need drugs
what you want to ask for is putting it down to half

30 points aka 15 strength to kickdoor

 

[Oswald]

Not sure how I feel about this. On one side you will have people who will stat-whore until they're all the way to the max in every attribute and it will be unfair to other people.

I’m a day one player and my activity has been up more so than down and I only have
.6 strength
6 stamina
Max endurance
3 medical

Endurance is the only stat you can “grind out” imo. I did the maths out of curiousity and I think stamina requires you to drain your energy bar 3000 times or something insane like that, think it’d take months for a passive player

 

[Tinbe]

Endurance will take time to be filled to maximum.
Stamina takes too much time to be filled to maximum.
Strength takes too much time to be filled in any capacity.

Either Strength needs to be able to be filled in other ways than just punching entities, or its gain rate needs to be bumped considerably - since if my research is correct, Strength gain rate is one tenth of Stamina's, which itself has one tenth of Endurance's gain rate.

Running to build up Endurance and Stamina is perfectly feasible (one more than the other, though only because of percentiles), but how often do you actually find yourself punching (or swinging melee weapons) at stuff? It's pretty hard to do that consistently unless you're confident the admins won't swat you for trying to farm attributes. Having the gain rate of 0.001 does little to help with that.

Also it's basically impossible for vorts to build up Strength since we have fickle empowered melee that does not contribute to the attribute gain, but trying to smack entities with fist SWEP would look weird and 99% of people would ask "uhh, why are you punching that Zombie without using vortessence? and why are you doing no damage? aren't you vorts supposed to be really strong?" but maybe that's just me being pessimistic.