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Suggestion: Give Vortigaunts Telepathic Communication. OOCly it'll be just be a Radio that all vorts have access too (Give people option to toggle it if they rp as a vort without connection to it)
Why it would be worth adding: Lotta Vorts want to communicate with one another, avoid humans and such like that. They already have a private language, but let them do it long range too so they can organize much better. Naturarly rules can be written when and where vorts can use this communication method.
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Not entirely sure on this + We don't really know the speed & intensity of vorts' telepathy - for all we know it could be a slow stream of information over days/weeks instead of instant communication.

Talking this over w/ staff when I can
 
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It's a bit much considering this is going to eventually factor into some PK, knowing the community.

Not to mention we only see it done once in EP2 (where it's extremely loud), if they had something they could constantly use you'd have seen it featured a lot more.
 

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I don't think flux shift is a hyperaccurate instant information stream like it's some frequency you can set

It's a transmission of concepts free to be interpreted differently, it's why I make visions a fucking png and not a direct wall of text
 
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I don't think flux shift is a hyperaccurate instant information stream like it's some frequency you can set

It's a transmission of concepts free to be interpreted differently, it's why I make visions a fucking png and not a direct wall of text

This is also kinda confirmed by some of the Ep2 developer commentary where they say that the Victory Mine Vort uses some of Magnusson's lines because subconciously they've been passed from Uriah via the link.

Like, there obviously is a way for Vorts to pass images and concepts directly (like they did from Nova Prospekt) but its not like WN does it where you can note down someone's full social security number at any time like a noteboard lmao
 
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solution: flux shifting takes the input, runs it through an image-generating AI as a prompt, then displays said image on the screen of all vortigaunts

what could go wrong?

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How about a Episode 2 based super yell function for vorts, every vort in the map can hear it, but it makes that call out sound.
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The idea of flux shifting as a means for vortigaunts to communicate at long distance has been something I've wanted in HL2RP for years, especially in city settings where the potential for enslaved vortigaunts acting as eyes and ears for the resistance would excel. Of course, there are some very valid criticisms above.

I think one possibility, though it isn't perfect, is to maybe treat it less like a vortigaunt /radio and more like a vortigaunt /event? Make vortigaunts use it as a means to describe information via emotes of vortessence images/visions, set up ground rules for what can and cannot be articulated, etc. Or maybe even just limit the command to admin only, and it's just used as a means for admins to give vortigaunt specific /event prompts.

Definitely some room for improvement on that concept, but I think there are ways to make it work even given what Numbers and ARK said above. The main issue I see overall though is players having to adjust slightly to how they perceive vortigaunts given that this capability will provide a new edge in many situations that I think some players will have trouble adjusting to initially.
 
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How about a Episode 2 based super yell function for vorts, every vort in the map can hear it, but it makes that call out sound.
Canonical with great potential to drive us all nuts.



I think this would be the only way that instantaneous, precise long-distance communique could work, but it'd have to be offset by some amount of cooldown and ability for people to know where the call is coming from. Otherwise, it would become extremely unpleasant.

Also maybe a character limit to force messages to be extremely short/concise/vague.
 
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The idea of flux shifting as a means for vortigaunts to communicate at long distance has been something I've wanted in HL2RP for years, especially in city settings where the potential for enslaved vortigaunts acting as eyes and ears for the resistance would excel. Of course, there are some very valid criticisms above.

I think one possibility, though it isn't perfect, is to maybe treat it less like a vortigaunt /radio and more like a vortigaunt /event? Make vortigaunts use it as a means to describe information via emotes of vortessence images/visions, set up ground rules for what can and cannot be articulated, etc. Or maybe even just limit the command to admin only, and it's just used as a means for admins to give vortigaunt specific /event prompts.

Definitely some room for improvement on that concept, but I think there are ways to make it work even given what Numbers and ARK said above. The main issue I see overall though is players having to adjust slightly to how they perceive vortigaunts given that this capability will provide a new edge in many situations that I think some players will have trouble adjusting to initially.
One of the ways I’ve interpreted the concept of Vortigaunts sharing and receiving information put out into the vast web of minds they share is through actual, direct visualization. Not necessarily in the sense of visions, but rather a visual, or at least in terms that make sense to someone who cannot possibly see or comprehend it beyond the strictly conceptual, manifestation of information itself. Think along the lines of perceivable, semi-tangible strands of thoughts, weaving and hanging in the air as though vapor trails.

That isn’t the only visual metaphor a Vort writer could use, of course. I think part of the fun of the notion, how individuals perceive the metaphysical environment that the Vortessence allows them to operate in, is that variety. One Vort may have a very orderly and vividly formed “sixth sense,” while another may see it as a myriad of colors and sensations that coil around all things like a gentle miasma.

Difficult to incorporate from a gameplay or mechanical perspective, certainly. But I do think the notion of a faction-specific /event style command would be close. It would need to be moderated so that people don’t use it cheaply or skirt the limitations of the ability though, which would be itself a whole different issue. Because the rebels already have some pretty severe issues with metagaming and I can see this exacerbating it horribly in the wrong hands. But frankly Vorts kinda need some RP/chardev love right now, instead of just being an S2K asset. The idea has potential.
 
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Attention; Prepare vortal premonition of anti-citizen one.

My Kin after I spend 6 hours straight spamming the Vortigaunt version of snapchat with ass pics

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I've always taken it as a collective pool of memories. If you listen to the All Knowing Vortigaunt and how he describes it. They can pull from this collective pool but it's not some chat room that can be filtered out.
 
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i would spam nothing but thug shaker pictures if it was pngs because its really funny
 

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I've always taken it as a collective pool of memories. If you listen to the All Knowing Vortigaunt and how he describes it. They can pull from this collective pool but it's not some chat room that can be filtered out.
I think it’s safe to assume that generally speaking this is how passive memories work among Vortigaunts, since they are to some extent an amalgam consciousness.

It used to be old old old OLD Lemonp*nch lore that the reason English was so widespread among them was because it was passively absorbed and redistributed through this manner, even.

But in the past, flux shifting has been considered itself something separate, an active and relatively controlled adding to that pool.

It’s like the difference between a cistern collecting water from gentle, ongoing rainfall or adding to it by pouring some water from an amphora, either directly into the cistern or by letting it trickle from a distance, changing and warping slightly with the path.
 
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