Suggestion CCTV

[avralwobniar]

Add functional CCTV cameras at major locations (grocery stores, banks, police stations, etc.). Whenever something like a shooting happens, store robbery, bank robbery or other notable crime occurs within the vicinity of the camera, it starts to record something like 20-30 seconds. Police can then head to the location and review the footage.

I imagine to not make it too taxing on the server, there'd just be a handful of screenshots taken from the perspective of the security camera which can then be reviewed like it's stop-motion to get an idea of what transpired. Cameras can be shot out or whatever.

 

[Cineron]

I'm on the fence. Do we really need to give cops the ability to actively seek out or obtain access to each shred of evidence where a crime is committed? Criminals may feel that there is a limit to their creativity and innovative approaches here in the future. While it may provide a deterrent to crime and perhaps lead to more premeditation, it can also limit a players spontaneity. While I won't say I'm wholly immune to mechanics over roleplay this suggestion could be considered a prime example of that issue. I would be willing to limit the CCTV to only major banks.

 

[Aether]

As a reporter whose income is partially dependant on being the only camera at a location for a crime that can prove it happened the way it did, I'd prefer if this wasn't the case outside of the PD/hospitals.

 

[RedMan]

Do we really need to give cops the ability to actively seek out or obtain access to each shred of evidence where a crime is committed?

It works both ways. If you claim a cop used excessive force, you can use the CCTV as evidence for it.

Personally, I would prefer that more physical evidence (Footprints, hair, finger imprints (on objects and stuff), tire marks (that persist for some time), glass shards, hats or clothing threads (from fighting and what not), and so on.) was introduced before we consider CCTV or bodycams, and more importantly, I would like a fair bit more QoL improvements to the MDT in order to allow us to effectively cross reference the existing evidence.

Sure, we could introduce footage, but it kills a great deal of investigation and court discussion. So I am kinda divided on the matter.

 

[boots]

This would be dope

 

[MaXenzie]

so long as the pics are in B&W and low res enough that you can’t make out exactly who’s in it
Like proper CCTV

 

[Blackquill]

so long as the pics are in B&W and low res enough that you can’t make out exactly who’s in it
Like proper CCTV

(Imagine instead of Walter it's Negan or Bob Austin)

 

[Mic15000]

(Imagine instead of Walter it's Negan or Bob Austin)

“WHA-WUAY AM EM BIENG RECORDED”

 

[Aether]

(Imagine instead of Walter it's Negan or Bob Austin)

POV: you are a burgershot employee and negan is somewhere in the store

 

[Warwick]

As a reporter whose income is partially dependant on being the only camera at a location for a crime that can prove it happened the way it did, I'd prefer if this wasn't the case outside of the PD/hospitals.

The problem with this is, as much as I'd like to interact with your character acting as a Nightcrawler-Esque reporter, you don't get police reports, and you aren't on all the time. If I rob a store in Paleto, you're not getting there before I leave.

 

[Aether]

The problem with this is, as much as I'd like to interact with your character acting as a Nightcrawler-Esque reporter, you don't get police reports, and you aren't on all the time. If I rob a store in Paleto, you're not getting there before I leave.

I'm aware, but that's intentional, much like cops not having body cameras. The only way I'd support CCTV in locations other than PD/Hospital is if there's a way to get a wire cutter and to be able to cut the CCTV feed for a location before you begin your crime.

 

[Warwick]

I'm aware, but that's intentional, much like cops not having body cameras. The only way I'd support CCTV in locations other than PD/Hospital is if there's a way to get a wire cutter and to be able to cut the CCTV feed for a location before you begin your crime.

I respect your opinion, but I don't think you're aware of how easy it is to commit crime at present. Out of maybe 100 crimes we've committed in the last 48 hours, we had one guy get caught. He was in the decoy car.

That, and CCTV is only going to show some masked up dudes entering and leaving. It'll ultimately only catch those who forget to mask up.

 

[Aether]

I respect your opinion, but I don't think you're aware of how easy it is to commit crime at present. Out of maybe 100 crimes we've committed in the last 48 hours, we had one guy get caught. He was in the decoy car.

That, and CCTV is only going to show some masked up dudes entering and leaving. It'll ultimately only catch those who forget to mask up.

I do understand how easy it is to commit crimes atm but I don't think that's an issue that CCTV will solve - especially as you've just said that all it will do is force people to use masks (which they do anyway) and will ultimately lead to nothing significant changing, unless it was kind of a case where CCTV acts like house burglar alarms but for the second you pull a gun or weapon or start doing something illegal, in which case, as I said, it'd be good if there was a counterbalance to it such as cutting the feeds before you go in.

 

[Warwick]

I do understand how easy it is to commit crimes atm but I don't think that's an issue that CCTV will solve - especially as you've just said that all it will do is force people to use masks (which they do anyway) and will ultimately lead to nothing significant changing, unless it was kind of a case where CCTV acts like house burglar alarms but for the second you pull a gun or weapon or start doing something illegal, in which case, as I said, it'd be good if there was a counterbalance to it such as cutting the feeds before you go in.

I agree to some extent. CCTV isn't going to catch us. Prints will, but that's OP unless there's a way of countering it. Presently, all cops can really do is be more active, or increase their numbers - and even then, you run the risk of the classic 8-on-1 chase that is so common in GTARP. I like where it's at right now, cops just gotta step up their tactics a little.

 

[Aether]

I agree to some extent. CCTV isn't going to catch us. Prints will, but that's OP unless there's a way of countering it. Presently, all cops can really do is be more active, or increase their numbers - and even then, you run the risk of the classic 8-on-1 chase that is so common in GTARP. I like where it's at right now, cops just gotta step up their tactics a little.

I absolutely agree, but that's why I'm saying I'd rather not have CCTV if the payoffs are little to none - plus it'd save the devs the work and it'd leave me stuff to do. If the CCTV is strong and acts as an immediate ping for the cops if you brandish a weapon/do something illegal at a location, as I said, it'd need a counterbalance such as wirecutting. As for fingerprints, I still believe it'd be a good idea to implement it but have it be countered by wearing gloves.

 

[Warwick]

As for fingerprints, I still believe it'd be a good idea to implement it but have it be countered by wearing gloves.

Honestly, for something with such an easy get-around, it's probably not worth it.

 

[RedMan]

Prints will, but that's OP unless there's a way of countering it.

Consider the following: the lack of a fingerprinting system on items will make it very easy for us to fabricate evidence, or alternatively, if the item was stolen from you and used in the commission of crime, you could very well be framed for it. Let's create an example scenario, imagine if we decided to temporarily seize your weapon amidst your visit to the MRPD and later decided to fire a couple shots in the middle of Grand Sanora Desert. Collecting the bullet casings in the process, cross referencing the serial number, and installing witnesses who are willing to testify to a bunch of lies against you. Due to the lack of a finger printing system, we cannot really prove it was you who fired the weapon outside of witness statements, but it was very well your own weapon that was used in the commission of the crime.

I like where it's at right now, cops just gotta step up their tactics a little.

Would you like to throw some ideas our way? Personally, I have been organising speed traps and patrolling high-crime rate areas like Grove Street and Mirror Park in hopes of speeding up our response to some of the crimes that are being committed, but to be honest, I think that only covers half of the issue at hand. Right now, unless you witness the commission of the crime yourself, there is little you can do to prove someone's guilt, and in the last couple days people have become quite fidgety while under arrest, especially once you start to assert Officer testimony from multiple Officers that were involved in the pursuit. Witness statements are pretty much the only evidence you can rely on, and with court around the corner, I highly doubt that the witness statements alone are going to be enough to prosecute someone.

 

[Warwick]

Consider the following: the lack of a fingerprinting system on items will make it very easy for us to fabricate evidence, or alternatively, if the item was stolen from you and used in the commission of crime, you could very well be framed for it. Let's create an example scenario, imagine if we decided to temporarily seize your weapon amidst your visit to the MRPD and later decided to fire a couple shots in the middle of Grand Sanora Desert. Collecting the bullet casings in the process, cross referencing the serial number, and installing witnesses who are willing to testify to a bunch of lies against you. Due to the lack of a finger printing system, we cannot really prove it was you who fired the weapon outside of witness statements, but it was very well your own weapon that was used in the commission of the crime.

Yeah, but if it's as simple as purchasing gloves from a mall or wearing them on your torso slot, then bam. Easily fixed. If not, that's gonna be OP. There's really little to balance.

Would you like to throw some ideas our way? Personally, I have been organising speed traps and patrolling high-crime rate areas like Grove Street and Mirror Park in hopes of speeding up our response to some of the crimes that are being committed, but to be honest, I think that only covers half of the issue at hand. Right now, unless you witness the commission of the crime yourself, there is little you can do to prove someone's guilt, and in the last couple days people have become quite fidgety while under arrest, especially once you start to assert Officer testimony from multiple Officers that were involved in the pursuit. Witness statements are pretty much the only evidence you can rely on, and with court around the corner, I highly doubt that the witness statements alone are going to be enough to prosecute someone.

I hope you understand, but I'm not going to tell you how to catch me. Some of you guys are better than others, but it's still remarkably easy to commit crime.

 

[RedMan]

Yeah, but if it's as simple as purchasing gloves from a mall or wearing them on your torso slot, then bam. Easily fixed. If not, that's gonna be OP. There's really little to balance.

I would prefer the system would be similar to Space Station 13's fingerprinting system. Where the fingerprints are obscured rather than non-existent.

I hope you understand, but I'm not going to tell you how to catch me. Some of you guys are better than others, but it's still remarkably easy to commit crime.

In that case, keep your secrets away from us - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Warwick]

In that case, keep your secrets away from us - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The cops'll get there in time, I know that for a fact. Until then, I'll enjoy my freedom lmao