Serious My experience with WW3 server

[seal]

ww3 rp is a bad server ownd

 

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ww3 rp is a bad server ownd

lmao reee
Not a bad server! Just a semi-serious rp server that claims to be a serious rp server

 

[Roosebud]

This is precisely why I'm saying the staff is blind to certain things. Listen, I'm done being toxic. I mean no offense, but if you honestly believe that the implementation of stabilization kits in no way affect medrp, .... I'm not even going to say it.

You're missing what I actually meant, I spelled it out in the response to oxy. I define a difference between 'StabilisationRP' and 'MedRP', meaning I'd be referring to 'MedRP' as the actual treatment of wounds in a medbay for example. StabilisationRP would be the act of ensuring someone survives long enough to be able to receive MedRP, meaning the act of removing someone's bleedout timer.

What I said was that 'StabilisationRP' (aka the 1 line '/me puts quickclot and bandage') became optional, while MedRP was still expansive and very much required for actual healing scripts, which is still being done and highly diverse, something that sadly wasn't happening with stabilisation as that was often done under fire where people did not risk putting a lot of effort in.

You have valid points, sure. But it also appears as if you did not entirely grasp how everything works, for example the stabilisation/medical stuff

^^, Oh, and don't take my word for it if you don't want. I've got over 10 players agreeing with me on this, many of whom's statements I'd be happy to quote for you-- anonymously if needed.

Honestly, you don't have to keep up with this attitude, have I not been responding to criticism on here? You dont have to constantly emphasize the fact that we should listen to you. In reality, I could just as easily say 'fuck off', but here I am spending my personal time on writing this in the middle of the night. I honestly couldn't care less about how much of a following you have, I'd rather stick to the topic

 

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You're missing what I actually meant, I spelled it out in the response to oxy. I define a difference between 'StabilisationRP' and 'MedRP', meaning I'd be referring to 'MedRP' as the actual treatment of wounds in a medbay for example. StabilisationRP would be the act of ensuring someone survives long enough to be able to receive MedRP, meaning the act of removing someone's bleedout timer.

What I said was that 'StabilisationRP' (aka the 1 line '/me puts quickclot and bandage') became optional, while MedRP was still expansive and very much required for actual healing scripts, which is still being done and highly diverse, something that sadly wasn't happening with stabilisation as that was often done under fire where people did not risk putting a lot of effort in.

You have valid points, sure. But it also appears as if you did not entirely grasp how everything works, for example the stabilisation/medical stuff



Honestly, you don't have to keep up with this attitude, have I not been responding to criticism on here? You dont have to constantly emphasize the fact that we should listen to you. In reality, I could just as easily say 'fuck off', but here I am spending my personal time on writing this in the middle of the night. I honestly couldn't care less about how much of a following you have, I'd rather stick to the topic

In and out of itself, stabiliz(s)ation rp is med rp. Making a one line 'plugs wound w quicklot' is just illegal as doing it in official medrp.(assuming we're going by the structure of serious rp). Stabilizing a wound requires extensive work, not just slap some quickclot on it and bandage it. If it were up to me, none of it would be optional, and it hsould be detailed, etc. Unfortunately it's not up to me, however, which is why I'm here making all these pushy suggestions. Sorry if my sass upsets you, but from what I garner, previous attempts at passive, civilized conversation with the hopes of fixing the problem have been fruitless.

 

[Oxy[Morons]]

ww3 rp is a bad server ownd

this is literally the only option left roosebud

roleplay is under attack

this is another reason why i have to criticize faction leaders
im not one to ignore the fact people are allowed to joke and meme but preferably not on a serious topic

just gives off a sense that you dont care

 

[Black Rain (1989)]

[doublepost=1497647948][/doublepost]@Roosebud
I think the easiest solution for the supposed problem right now is to switch the sever 's structure from serious rp to semi-serious rp

this is literally the only option left roosebud

roleplay is under attack

 

[Angel]

I resigned/left WW3RP for multiple reasons, among which was the fact that the server was not taking the course I wish it was - the lore change didn't bring about the idealistic view I had for WW3RP and I was a fool to have it, since that's exactly what happened when WW3RP launched with nebulous, people expected a sudden mentality or view change to the gamemode, which simply doesn't happen overnight.

Now, I chose to leave because I wasn't having fun in the environment it was at anymore, but I was the minority in the server that wished it was different - which is why it appalls me that other people who have left need to have such a constant toxic demeanor to the server, to the point where they just want to annoy and piss off everyone - even when they have no interest in returning or actually getting a point across.


The worst part about this is the fact, as this thread as shown (as have many other threads, private and public conversations and so on) that @Roosebud is actually willing to listen and take criticism and change things if it warranted - so seeing people taking the piss all the time, when if they actually wanted thing to change, they would simply act like mature Humans instead of spoiled kids.

Of course you need to remember that his job as a Server Director is to make sure the server has a playerbase, and it has had its ups and downs, but it always comes around. If the majority of the playerbase (using a random number, lets say 80%) wants to have less NLR so they can s2k more, it seems obvious that you consider changing it, because the other portion that doesn't want a lower NLR is /not/ forced to go out and s2k (this is an example to illustrate a point).


If you actually want something to change, take advantage of the fact that you have a Server Director that takes his time to listen and read through all the spew (and the useful bits as well), and instead of simply throwing grenades and RDMing, do this.

• Point out the problem on the forums
• Perhaps gather evidence to showcase the point
• Let the players react to it, do they agree? Do they disagree?
• Start acting like it in-game - if you'd rather have more passive RP in the server then s2k (example) then spend more time doing passiveRP

If enough people do this and show that this is what will retain players, this is what will make most of you happy, I don't think that there would be an issue with trying to work on it - as long as it's not impossible or something completely radical to the server itself (if 75% of the players want flying cars in 1990, doesn't mean it will happen).


If you're an old player, that left, stop spamming every fucking thread with how much you think the server is shit - you just make a mockery out of yourself and make whoever is in-charge not want to listen to your constant stream of spew. Try being a reasonable person instead.

 

[ⓅⓊⓅ]

I resigned/left WW3RP for multiple reasons, among which was the fact that the server was not taking the course I wish it was - the lore change didn't bring about the idealistic view I had for WW3RP and I was a fool to have it, since that's exactly what happened when WW3RP launched with nebulous, people expected a sudden mentality or view change to the gamemode, which simply doesn't happen overnight.

Now, I chose to leave because I wasn't having fun in the environment it was at anymore, but I was the minority in the server that wished it was different - which is why it appalls me that other people who have left need to have such a constant toxic demeanor to the server, to the point where they just want to annoy and piss off everyone - even when they have no interest in returning or actually getting a point across.


The worst part about this is the fact, as this thread as shown (as have many other threads, private and public conversations and so on) that @Roosebud is actually willing to listen and take criticism and change things if it warranted - so seeing people taking the piss all the time, when if they actually wanted thing to change, they would simply act like mature Humans instead of spoiled kids.

Of course you need to remember that his job as a Server Director is to make sure the server has a playerbase, and it has had its ups and downs, but it always comes around. If the majority of the playerbase (using a random number, lets say 80%) wants to have less NLR so they can s2k more, it seems obvious that you consider changing it, because the other portion that doesn't want a lower NLR is /not/ forced to go out and s2k (this is an example to illustrate a point).


If you actually want something to change, take advantage of the fact that you have a Server Director that takes his time to listen and read through all the spew (and the useful bits as well), and instead of simply throwing grenades and RDMing, do this.

• Point out the problem on the forums
• Perhaps gather evidence to showcase the point
• Let the players react to it, do they agree? Do they disagree?
• Start acting like it in-game - if you'd rather have more passive RP in the server then s2k (example) then spend more time doing passiveRP

If enough people do this and show that this is what will retain players, this is what will make most of you happy, I don't think that there would be an issue with trying to work on it - as long as it's not impossible or something completely radical to the server itself (if 75% of the players want flying cars in 1990, doesn't mean it will happen).


If you're an old player, that left, stop spamming every fucking thread with how much you think the server is shit - you just make a mockery out of yourself and make whoever is in-charge not want to listen to your constant stream of spew. Try being a reasonable person instead.

Thanks for the input. To be honest I haven't spent more than 10 hours on the server. I minged around, then got serious, got promoted, then went out with a bang because the server wasn't what it said it was. I did everything you said on that bullet list, but instead of being passive about it I was toxic and sassy about it. Dunno, guess subtle just ain't me. Not that the difference between subtle and agressive will change anything, from what I've seen. From what I gather, passive conversations asking for change have been fruitless, and I doubt this thread will make a change. It seems to me that yes the staff are willing to listen, but are they willing to take action? Well. Let's find out.

 

[ruben slikk]

Thanks for the input. To be honest I haven't spent more than 10 hours on the server. I minged around, then got serious, got promoted, then went out with a bang because the server wasn't what it said it was. I did everything you said on that bullet list, but instead of being passive about it I was toxic and sassy about it. Dunno, guess subtle just ain't me. Not that the difference between subtle and agressive will change anything, from what I've seen. From what I gather, passive conversations asking for change have been fruitless, and I doubt this thread will make a change. It seems to me that yes the staff are willing to listen, but are they willing to take action? Well. Let's find out.

Thing is the change has to come from within the playerbase. In the 3 years the server has been up, the playerbase has steadily continued changing for the worst, up to now which is p much rock bottom in terms of rp and seriousness.

I tried to RP with an injured soldier on the field (after a firefight so there was no danger) and all I was met with was a "Fuck off, you're not a medic" in LOOC. Left a very sour taste in my mouth

 

[Angel]

Thanks for the input. To be honest I haven't spent more than 10 hours on the server. I minged around, then got serious, got promoted, then went out with a bang because the server wasn't what it said it was. I did everything you said on that bullet list, but instead of being passive about it I was toxic and sassy about it. Dunno, guess subtle just ain't me. Not that the difference between subtle and agressive will change anything, from what I've seen. From what I gather, passive conversations asking for change have been fruitless, and I doubt this thread will make a change. It seems to me that yes the staff are willing to listen, but are they willing to take action? Well. Let's find out.

Lets look into the cognitive dissonance you're exerting here

I did everything you said on that bullet list, but instead of being passive about it I was toxic and sassy about it.

So, you didn't do what I said.

Not that the difference between subtle and agressive will change anything

So, why did you think it would be appropriate to make a distinction between the two?
How do you know it won't make a difference if you haven't done both?

From what I gather, passive conversations asking for change have been fruitless

You said earlier you were aggressive and not passive, and that you played the server for 10 hours.
So you have no idea, this statement is just pure fabrication of your mind, or from what you gathered, which is nil.

and I doubt this thread will make a change.

Well, maybe it will, maybe it won't. Perhaps if you didn't act the way you did, it would have a better chance, but clearly you think that the difference between passive/aggressive is non existent

It seems to me that yes the staff are willing to listen, but are they willing to take action?

You shouldn't expect a structural change to happen within 24 hours, especially when you already claimed a bunch of times that said change won't happen.

You contradicted yourself in the same sentence at times, that is really astonishing. Try, perhaps, a coherent reply without passive-aggressive and angst statements.

 

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Lets look into the cognitive dissonance you're exerting here


So, you didn't do what I said.


So, why did you think it would be appropriate to make a distinction between the two?
How do you know it won't make a difference if you haven't done both?


You said earlier you were aggressive and not passive, and that you played the server for 10 hours.
So you have no idea, this statement is just pure fabrication of your mind, or from what you gathered, which is nil.


Well, maybe it will, maybe it won't. Perhaps if you didn't act the way you did, it would have a better chance, but clearly you think that the difference between passive/aggressive is non existent


You shouldn't expect a structural change to happen within 24 hours, especially when you already claimed a bunch of times that said change won't happen.

You contradicted yourself in the same sentence at times, that is really astonishing. Try, perhaps, a coherent reply without passive-aggressive and angst statements.

Oh, the irony... The first genuinely passive reply I make gets a toxic reply from a hilariously confused ex-player who clearly has not read the entire conversation.

Lets look into the cognitive dissonance you're exerting here

Save the smart-ass talk for a conversation where you're actually relevant, yeah?

So, you didn't do what I said.

Yes, I did. But the way I carried it out was different. Opposite.

So, why did you think it would be appropriate to make a distinction between the two?
How do you know it won't make a difference if you haven't done both?

Just from this line I can tell that either A. You haven't read everything I've argued here, which makes you utterly transparent in the discussion since you're coming from an uninformed, bias point of view. You talk about how people should debate in a civilized and passive manner with logic and facts yet here you stand bashing me without prior knowledge of all that has transpired and with a disgusting bias-- How do I know you're biased? You regarded my reply as toxic despite it being the first nice thing I've said all day.

Never did I say that making a distinction between the two would be appropriate. If you read all the debates we've had here, you'd know why I am in disbelief that either approach to the issue will be resolved-- but as I mentioned in my initial response to you, only time will tell. It's because others who've tried peaceful discussion have born no fruit, so I tried the alternate approach, the violent one. If you don't like it, that's too bad. Nothing will change what I siad (unless staff edits it for profanity) , and I don't plan on editing it any time soon. Deal with it. Agressive protesters exist.

You said earlier you were aggressive and not passive, and that you played the server for 10 hours.
So you have no idea, this statement is just pure fabrication of your mind, or from what you gathered, which is nil.

Is it so hard to believe that someone who has only been here for a couple of hours is capable of gathering evidence.. Capable of observing, capable of actually catching on to details? You're not the only smart ass here, you know. Though I keep wondering to myself if I should actually be considering you to be a mr smarty pants, considering you believe that a 10 hour period is not enough; that it renders someone's knowledge on a subject nil. If you'd be as observative as the rest of the people on this thread who actually gave vivid, genuine replies to the facts I stated and not the way I say those facts, you'd know that I wasn't talking about myself being passive. I've admitted time and time again I'm the agressor. I was saying that others have tried to approach the staff passively yet born no fruit. How do I know? Scroll up. Check the other pages.

Well, maybe it will, maybe it won't. Perhaps if you didn't act the way you did, it would have a better chance, but clearly you think that the difference between passive/aggressive is non existent

Time will tell.

I don't think the difference between the two is nonexistent, I think the result of either path is the same. That in itself is a big difference which you believe to be nonexistent.

You shouldn't expect a structural change to happen within 24 hours, especially when you already claimed a bunch of times that said change won't happen.

I don't expect a structural change in 24 hours. You literally just... Proved that sentiment. I don't even understand the point of this line. Call me dumb if you want, but to me it just seems like you stabbed yourself with a double-tipped spear.

You contradicted yourself in the same sentence at times, that is really astonishing. Try, perhaps, a coherent reply without passive-aggressive and angst statements.

Your entire reply was an angsty passive-agressive attempt to be the white knight that others have already tried to be, and frankly, you failed where others succeeded. The key difference between you and the others is that where you tried to seem like an over-qualified, smart-ass veteran, others actually clung to the relevant context of the thread and offered genuine counter-argument to the facts and evidence.

Don't even bother trying to make up for it. I'm not going to waste another 15 minutes debating with someone who's opinion is irrelevant due to them not being a server player anymore. Say what you will, but don't be surprised when all you get in response is a silly rating or a few sentences adressing your headache-causing ignorance.

 

[Angel]

Save the smart-ass talk for a conversation where you're actually relevant, yeah?

oh ok

ps - we weren't debating, I was just explaining why you're a big box
pps - I might not play anymore, but my opinion is infinitely more relevant then someone who is permabanned

 

[Deleted member 377]

anyways, on a more serious notes besides all the flame, I think that we can all agree that these are some valid points provided, even if the person who posted this at hand did mass RDM/minge, though it'll be a while before any major changes that are implemented will be easily visible.
it's gonna take time to change the playerbase, regardless of whether or not there are changes implemented.

 

[ruben slikk]

damn even some new guy who doesnt know angel can roast him


I'm just going to keep coming on the server and roleplaying. Hopefully I end up influencing people. Anyone else want to do this?

 

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damn even some new guy who doesnt know angel can roast him


I'm just going to keep coming on the server and roleplaying. Hopefully I end up influencing people. Anyone else want to do this?

Let's just say this thread made me quite a few friends. :p

 

[Mendel]

damn even some new guy who doesnt know angel can roast him


I'm just going to keep coming on the server and roleplaying. Hopefully I end up influencing people. Anyone else want to do this?

no revolution was ever silent

to arms in the land of roleplay

 

[ⓅⓊⓅ]

oh ok

ps - we weren't debating, I was just explaining why you're a big box
pps - I might not play anymore, but my opinion is infinitely more relevant then someone who is permabanned

Well, the staff saved you from my ire, but who cares. I've only been here a few hours and I can already tell everyone knows of your little charade. So what if they deleted my post, everyone knows about you.

I don't think I need to go back in on this, I'll let you hang on to that little ounce of respect that people still have for you, considering you were the faction leader. Peace. Don't ever test me again. Have a good one.~

 

[Angel]

Well, the staff saved you from my ire, but who cares. I've only been here a few hours and I can already tell everyone knows of your little charade. So what if they deleted my post, everyone knows about you.

I don't think I need to go back in on this, I'll let you hang on to that little ounce of respect that people still have for you, considering you were the faction leader. Peace. Don't ever test me again. Have a good one.~

I think everyone knows I ERP and I don't try to hide it - as for the rest of your claims - just not true, sorry.
What ire by the way dude? Internet tough people smh

 

[Deleted member 374]

I think everyone knows I ERP and I don't try to hide it

yeah

so does pepper

 

[Angel]

yeah

so does pepper

I think we're going a bit off-topic here, but if your implication is that ERPing = being Dr. Pepper then about 33% of the active playerbase in this community is Pepper.
Well... fuck.