Serious Went to a Jordan Peterson talk

[Blackquill]

okay then.

Mainly because everyone you argue with or disagree with, you subtly or outright imply/say they're retarded

Like JP for example

 

[ddæ]

Name one example.

no point, i'm about to get in the shower and it's not like you'll read then before spouting your regurgitated dreck for two more pages anyway

holy shit.

This guy just said that black people have lower IQ's.

This is what JBP does to your brain.

i dont watch peterson, i haven't fully devoted myself to one of his lectures and haven't touched his work in months - i'd certainly look out to buy his book sometime soon though, as i'm looking to get back into literature.

and you're going to sit here and tell me, that on average, a black male/female in the continent of africa is projected to have a higher intelligence than a white man/woman in europe/the americas? one in a million, literally, maybe.

Theory debunked nerd.

shut up incel

But yeh it has some merit to it.

yes, it does

Not really no, couse he gives pretty shit opinions on all of them.

which have evidently worked. he's been married to his wife healthily for decades by following his principles, physically and mentally he is healthier, refreshed. but i'm sure you hold more merit than a man whom was a professor at harvard and the university of toronto. do give your take on it.

 

[Oswald]

holy shit.

This guy just said that black people have lower IQ's.

Mate reading that makes me lose some fucking IQ points

 

[Husky]

Mainly because everyone you argue with or disagree with, you subtly or outright imply/say they're retarded

Like JP for example

JP talks about subjects he understands, from someone on a roleplay forum that's fine, from someone who's in a very influential position to a lot of impressionable young men can be very harmful.

 

[Dallas]

I admire Peterson with regards to his lectures on Fascism / Communist ideologues and some of his stuff about the Bible. Not too big into his contemporary stuff, but I absolutely loved his lecture on Solzhenitsyn and the Soviet regime - that two hour lecture sent me on a whole tangent with regards to research during my Undergraduate thesis, just out of pure fascination for some of the topics he glossed over.

I'd be interested to hear what other people think of his historical stuff - I am also interested in hearing why people are drawn to Peterson so much, why has he become this icon in popular culture? What is he doing that other contemporary philosophers aren't?

basically this, as i said on page one, is where my interest in peterson begins and ends

there's certainly worse people to have as a role model in our world today; and when i look at many people in authority, peterson strikes a figure of some respectability - so not everything needs to be a dichotomy

his history is pretty spot on (broad strokes stuff, you get much more of a factual understanding of the Gulag system through Applebaum's book) but i really would love to hear his thoughts on the end of the soviet union and the eastern bloc - the violence, the destitution and the emergence of long dormant nationalities

that could be really good stuff

 

[Blackquill]

from someone who's in a very influential position to a lot of impressionable young men can be very harmful.

People can speak their minds and their ideas

Creating 'cults' clearly isn't the guys M.O

 

[Husky]

i dont watch peterson, i haven't fully devoted myself to one of his lectures and haven't touched his work in months - i'd certainly look out to buy his book sometime soon though, as i'm looking to get back into literature.

and you're going to sit here and tell me, that on average, a black male/female in the continent of africa is projected to have a higher intelligence than a white man/woman in europe/the americas? one in a million, literally, maybe.

nononono

you said black people biologically have lower IQ's.

A theory that's been dubunked since the late 1950's.

yes, it does

kk

which have evidently worked. he's been married to his wife healthily for decades by following his principles, physically and mentally he is healthier, refreshed. but i'm sure you hold more merit than a man whom was a professor at harvard and the university of toronto. do give your take on it.

Just because he says it doesn't necessarily mean he does it

 

[Oswald]

Mainly because everyone you argue with or disagree with, you subtly or outright imply/say they're retarded

Like JP for example

Naw he puts in a few paragraphs of some bull shit and then when he’s called out he goes “NO YOU WRONG” and when he’s proven wrong a couple more times he doesn’t reply. But it is a fun read to be fair :smiley:
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you said black people biologically have lower IQ's.

Statistically*
P.S; he didn’t even say biologically, you’re really grasping at straws at this point

 

[Dallas]

People can speak their minds and their ideas

Creating 'cults' clearly isn't the guys M.O

people who deify him clearly don't get one of the core parts of his lectures - being a blind ideologue makes you less able to reason, it makes you less able to live in the world with freedom of thought

so i do indeed cringe at the cultish trends around people like JP

 

[Black Rain (1989)]

Just because he says it doesn't necessarily mean he does it

hand in your phd peterson its over

 

[ddæ]

nononono

you said black people biologically have lower IQ's.

A theory that's been dubunked since the late 1950's.


kk


Just because he says it doesn't necessarily mean he does it

how dare a 56 year old man look 56

 

[Deerjohn]

do u danes actually make these donuts and are they good

 

[Deleted member 374]

they do, scientifically - they're also less socially developed on average due to cultural upbringing and natural evolution - though as for the claims of deserving slavery; i wont comment. do i believe black and white people should coexist peacefully? yes, but you can't deny scientifically that white people are more socially and mentally developed than black people, and i would go on by extension to say that white and black people shouldn't live together. think whites in europe, and blacks in africa. not even me trying to be an edgy right-winger, just factual.

yikes

 

[Angel]

I am also interested in hearing why people are drawn to Peterson so much, why has he become this icon in popular culture? What is he doing that other contemporary philosophers aren't?

I need to comment on the fact that I find it amazing that a 'thinker' is able to fill auditoriums, based on exactly that, his ideas, something which has been missing for a while, unfortunately.

The reason I believe he is so popular comes from two things, although they're very much the same

- He says common sense things, things we have all held as obvious, but they have recently been under attack by the growing extremism, so it is refreshing for people who still identify with the center, who have been been left out of the loop because each side seems to be more insane than the other by the day
- He captivates due to his ability to maintain calm (most of the time) when he is in a debate, while being very articulate in the way he constructs his arguments, something that has been vanishing from the public discourse. On the right, you have the 'owned libtard cry venezuela xD' and on the left you just scream 'racist, sexist and transphobic' to shut down the other side

He is not as abrasive/crazy as Milo (I think Milo is hilarious, but I think he is, many times, wrong) or as politically coloured as Shapiro.


With news and information being digested so much, 3 minute, 5 minute, 7 minute segments where you can't fit anything, people have been left with a thirst for long form dialogue, and the technology is now here to allow it - Podcasts. 1 hour, 2 hours 3 hours... Joe Rogan's podcast is insanely popular, because you actually get guests who can develop their thoughts+throw jokes in there to make it easy
I think it is the same reason someone like Neil Tyson is well known, they both managed to make something 'boring' (astrophysics, psychology) into something interesting by being good narrators.

here he says why he thinks he is popular himself at 1 minute

entire segment is worth watching anyways



now, endangering myself of stepping ON THE TRAP

This guy just said that black people have lower IQ's.

That's because... people in Africa, have, on average, lower IQ than people in Europe who in turn have an average lower IQ than people in Asia.
Although these statistics seem to be evident, the reasoning as to why that is does not seem to be race, but a multitude of factors.
You have to give context to his statement, because depending on the context, that statement might or might not make sense.

Then again, throw random sentence completely out of context to make someone look eViL is easier


if you need to find the statistics www.google.com

 

[Deleted member 374]

That's because... people in Africa, have, on average, lower IQ than people in Europe who in turn have an average lower IQ than people in Asia.
Although these statistics seem to be evident, the reasoning as to why that is does not seem to be race, but a multitude of factors.
You have to give context to his statement, because depending on the context, that statement might or might not make sense.

it's no secret that those who live in africa tend to have lower standards of living than those who live elsewhere. it's almost as if being befallen by poverty, disease, starvation, and political violence isn't conducive to education and learning.

 

[Mancom37]

In itself the question of IQ does not take in consideration things that are required for jobs such as ones that depend on the creativity of the person.

 

[Deleted member 374]

In itself the question of IQ does not take in consideration things that are required for jobs such as ones that depend on the creativity of the person.

iq is a very rigid metric based on a very rigid set of variables. you cannot accurately quantify intelligence.

 

[Mancom37]

iq is a very rigid metric based on a very rigid set of variables. you cannot accurately quantify intelligence.

I know, I am saying that we should not disregard iq as a tool but still understand how it does not cover the "know all do all" of how a society should work.

 

[Dallas]

iq is a big fucking joke and people who use it for so-called racial science need to stop thank you for coming to my ted talk

 

[Deleted member 374]

iq is a big fucking joke and people who use it for so-called racial science need to stop thank you for coming to my ted talk

b-b-but it's da smartness numbers dallas. da SMARTNESS NUMBERS