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but, at the same time, becoming incredibly cruel islooked down upon by the community

this statement is two-faced because i too look down upon people who just become retardedly cringy with their eViL CrUeL emotes but in some cases people take the piss out of cp rpers who try to do it seriously without being cringelords
 

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When you think about it, HL2RP and the CP faction is just the Stanford Prison Expriment personified in a video-game space. When people feel anonymous and have power of depersonalized others they can easily become "evil" or cruel.

Especially over extended peroids of time, making crueler and crueler punishments seem more and more "normal.". It shows the psychological effects of perceived power, where citizens serve as the "prisoners".


didnt know that vsauce started roleplaying
 
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You're wrong on a few accounts there with some very wavy non-factual views.
but, at the same time, becoming incredibly cruel islooked down upon by the community
Not really, we have torture roleplay and other cruel roleplay at a constant that's completely unchecked and widely accepted, for example the Provisionals killing loyalists in a number of fancy ways. The very common torture that ties into interrogation in general that has been going on with the CP faction for ages.

It's looked upon as necessary cruetly despite being cruelty all the same, it's psychological and physical torture, where a promise or a gurantee would probably work better, it's just what people do, and it's normalized.
 

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maybe i'm just seeing one side but every time people rp out torture or 'intense violence' on the cp side there's a group of people who will immediately leap upon it like starving dogs

maybe i'm just seeing isolated incidents
maybe i'm just fucking retarded
 
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When you think about it, HL2RP and the CP faction is just the Stanford Prison Expriment personified in a video-game space. When people feel anonymous and have power of depersonalized others they can easily become "evil" or cruel.

Especially over extended peroids of time, making crueler and crueler punishments seem more and more "normal.". It shows the psychological effects of perceived power, where citizens serve as the "prisoners".


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maybe i'm just seeing one side but every time people rp out torture or 'intense violence' on the cp side there's a group of people who will immediately leap upon it like starving dogs

maybe i'm just seeing isolated incidents
maybe i'm just fucking retarded
You're not wrong, there are people with strong enough opinions that despite what a majority normalize, they'll call it out anyway. But not everyone expresses that opinion, if everyone did, it wouldn't happen in the first place because the people conducting the roleplay would be surrounded by people who call it out whilst or before it happens in order to ground them - or they'd be of the same opinion in the first place.
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that one lewis thread where CP's are ordered around by a human-run dispatching force and they're good to take their masks off and interact with citizens at their own will without the prospect of constant bullying and pressure.
 
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that one lewis thread where CP's are ordered around by a human-run dispatching force and they're good to take their masks off and interact with citizens at their own will without the prospect of constant bullying and pressure.

That's normal cops if they had to wear gasmask.

Just replace everything with conscripts.
Conscript Administration, Conscripted Protectors, Outland Proselyte Army, Conscript Workers Union, Conscripted Citizens, Proselyte Corpsmen Unit, Conscripted Headcrabs, Conscripted Conscript of the Union Proselytes of Conscription...
 
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That's normal cops if they had to wear gasmask.
Yeah exactly, that's the point, human politics left mostly intact as long as the resources keep piling and being exported - most of the resistance being thugs and organized crime rather than actual freedom fighters and idealists. We have an already expanded lore with most of the main "resistance" being cut down, earths internal struggles would in my view be governed by earth.

edit: It's also not exactly like that since they're also required to keep the population in check, it's still an authorative government, but it shouldn't be immune to human input and error.

Just replace everything with conscripts.
Conscript Administration, Conscripted Protectors, Outland Proselyte Army, Conscript Workers Union, Conscripted Citizens, Proselyte Corpsmen Unit, Conscripted Headcrabs, Conscripted Conscript of the Union Proselytes of Conscription...
Don't be snarky about a mature conversation it makes you seem like you're ten years younger than you are and that you can't partake in an argument, it's pretty unbecoming. It's not a joke either because it's commentary to portray your point.
 
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Yeah exactly, that's the point, human politics left mostly intact as long as the resources keep piling and being exported - most of the resistance being thugs and organized crime rather than actual freedom fighters and idealists.

It's the point

If this wasn't HL2

Don't be snarky about a mature conversation it makes you seem like you're ten years younger than you are and that you can't partake in an argument, it's pretty unbecoming. It's not a joke either because it's commentary to portray your point.

Wrong thread
 

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That's normal cops if they had to wear gasmask.

Just replace everything with conscripts.
Conscript Administration, Conscripted Protectors, Outland Proselyte Army, Conscript Workers Union, Conscripted Citizens, Proselyte Corpsmen Unit, Conscripted Headcrabs, Conscripted Conscript of the Union Proselytes of Conscription...
i don’t get it
 
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how much of it still is hl2 bar the heavy core themes (cps, ota, advisors, combine) we take from it? the government isnt purely combine oriented, the resistance proper (eli & co) are defunct, transhumans are in a (somewhat convenient) dip, causing conscription (although why the military weight isn't just offloaded onto high-ranking civil protection mixed with ota leaders, who knows)

a lot of the server's lore is now custom lore and, with only mere pushes and relatively minor reforms, it would just detach from half life 2 entirely and turn into a fully creative project without the worry of "it doesn't feel like it could fit into the hl2 spirit"
 

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it isn't HL2 though, it's Nebulous, and it's our own lore. Your own faction isn't even HL2 I don't know how you even think like that.

It's our own lore doesn't mean we have to lose the way completely and turn this into something that does not resemble HL2 even a bit

"My faction" adds onto the mix, changing CPs would be a modification of a base thing from the Universe itself.
 

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the universe is shit, hl2 isnt the universe you set a gameode like this is which is why most of the good shit is shit we made up
 

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a lot of the server's lore is now custom lore and, with only mere pushes and relatively minor reforms, it would just detach from half life 2 entirely and turn into a fully creative project without the worry of "it doesn't feel like it could fit into the hl2 spirit"

Then don't call it HL2?

If players go looking at the list of servers and join a server called "HL2RP" they'll want something that resembles HL2 at least a tiny bit, at least with the core things from the game feeling a bit like the game. That's the whole point of "roleplay in the hl2 universe", we loosen up to allow more things to happen, but if we lose the way completely it's like going to a D&D game and while fighting goblins some cool StormTroopers invade and help you.

the universe is shit, hl2 isnt the universe you set a gameode like this is which is why most of the good shit is shit we made up

But most of the gamemode is based on the core things of HL2 even if we modified it. We added onto it, we didn't remove or modified the core values of things to the point where it's not even anything close to HL2 anymore.
 

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the universe is shit, hl2 isnt the universe you set a gameode like this is which is why most of the good shit is shit we made up
would gmod rp in clockwork/nutscript be more popular if more people knew about it or are we just retarded for being with it

sometimes i wonder if its a better alternative as a medium for roleplay as opposed to other games or just straight up text rp
 

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Then don't call it HL2?

If players go looking at the list of servers and join a server called "HL2RP" they'll want something that resembles HL2 at least a tiny bit, at least with the core things from the game feeling a bit like the game. That's the whole point of "roleplay in the hl2 universe", we loosen up to allow more things to happen, but if we lose the way completely it's like going to a D&D game and while fighting goblins some cool StormTroopers invade and help you.



But most of the gamemode is based on the core things of HL2 even if we modified it. We added onto it, we didn't remove or modified the core values of things to the point where it's not even anything close to HL2 anymore.
It really isn't. The core things in HL2 is shooting and puzzle solving, the story was minimal and in the background to the action and shit. There wasn't any CWU, UM, CAB etc. until we decided we wanted them.
 

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would gmod rp in clockwork/nutscript be more popular if more people knew about it or are we just retarded for being with it

sometimes i wonder if its a better alternative as a medium for roleplay as opposed to other games or just straight up text rp

Gmod's pretty dead to be fair, but yet again, there's text RP everywhere, even HL2 stuff, but most of the real cool stuff comes from events and such that can only be achieved in a server, whether it's plain combat or some character developing events