Serious Discussion: WW3RP 'back to basics'... sortof

[Johnny B. Goode]

bring back the funny awol recruit messages

 

[steambored]

on another note, i dont really mind the lore either-way because my only real gripe was playermodel equipment, if the lore advanced it to 2007/2009 level of equipment, id probably jump back in a heart-beat.

 

[echs dee]

on another note, i dont really mind the lore either-way because my only real gripe was playermodel equipment, if the lore advanced it to 2007/2009 level of equipment, id probably jump back in a heart-beat.

i mean
"mainstream" weapons are used to this day. there's some cold-war ish guns in the pack
in terms of vehicles and heli's, not more than a straight up reskin to a NATO APC would happen but heli's and other things would be pretty much the same thing i bet.

 

[steambored]

i mean
"mainstream" weapons are used to this day. there's some cold-war ish guns in the pack
in terms of vehicles and heli's, not more than a straight up reskin to a NATO APC would happen but heli's and other things would be pretty much the same thing i bet.

not the weapons, the uniforms and bodyarmor

 

[echs dee]

not the weapons, the uniforms and bodyarmor

tbh
that'd just be nato i imagine?
unless we wanna have more modern gear, afaik soviets used cold war equipment up to like 2008? as for insurgents, they'd probably never change

 

[steambored]

tbh
that'd just be nato i imagine?
unless we wanna have more modern gear, afaik soviets used cold war equipment up to like 2008? as for insurgents, they'd probably never change

soviet body armor was actually pretty good up to 2016, all that happened was changes in camo patterns. as for insurgents, it depends on how much the insurgents are getting supplied by nato if they're co-joined into an irregular army, but at best i only see insurgents getting hand-me-downs unless nato becomes generous and gives out state of the art body armor.

 

[echs dee]

soviet body armor was actually pretty good up to 2016, all that happened was changes in camo patterns. as for insurgents, it depends on how much the insurgents are getting supplied by nato if they're co-joined into an irregular army, but at best i only see insurgents getting hand-me-downs unless nato becomes generous and gives out state of the art body armor.

NATO wasn't supplying them in armor to my knowledge? (Atleast in stasiland times). It was just weapons and stuff. Insurgents were left to make their own armor. Which i bet will still be a thing.

insurgents were never given any NATO equipment/weapons, usually stuff you could get from a blackmarket. NATO's gonna have some specialised equipment that the insurgents probably won't have if we follow this setting.

 

[steambored]

NATO wasn't supplying them in armor to my knowledge? (Atleast in stasiland times). It was just weapons and stuff. Insurgents were left to make their own armor. Which i bet will still be a thing.

insurgents were never given any NATO equipment/weapons, usually stuff you could get from a blackmarket. NATO's gonna have some specialised equipment that the insurgents probably won't have if we follow this setting.

well, stasiland was enclosed in an occupied city wasnt it? kind of difficult to smuggle any type of gear in-bulk to a nation that's within the iron wall. if insurgents are co-joined with NATO, then i dont see a reason why they'd atleast not give them some basic body armor. regardless, however it's handled, cant really complain with it. atleast one thing i hope for if this is given a chance, i hope it wont be simkas models, because christ some of simkas model packs are absolutely horrendous in quality and i cant stand looking at them.

 

[echs dee]

well, stasiland was enclosed in an occupied city wasnt it? kind of difficult to smuggle any type of gear in-bulk to a nation that's within the iron wall. if insurgents are co-joined with NATO, then i dont see a reason why they'd atleast not give them some basic body armor. regardless, however it's handled, cant really complain with it. atleast one thing i hope for if this is given a chance, i hope it wont be simkas models, because christ some of simkas model packs are absolutely horrendous in quality and i cant stand looking at them.

Afaik, we were only supplied when the city was taken over by the insurgents.
As for them having armor? I think it won't hurt as much, as long as it's just not given to everybody. Insurgents are meant to start off piss poor, disorganized, and such. They'll get stronger within time.

By the way. What models?
Stasiland was using Generic 90's special forces and Generic 90's bad guys alongside some mercenary models for armored suits. Other models were well done (citizen, NATO, soviet)

 

[Roosebud]

it's kindof a shame we didnt get to use the custom NATO models for very long.

Spoiler: Some outtakes

I reckon for the insurgents/mercenaries/whatever we'd use the custom Stasiland civilian models, and have them be able to buy the loose protective vests from vendors, such as the mil-grade vest and sf-grade vests to wear over their regular models.
I guess we'd either make the craftable merc suits buyable from vendors at higher prices or have them remain as a crafting recipe.

 

[echs dee]

it's kindof a shame we didnt get to use the custom NATO models for very long.

Spoiler: Some outtakes

I reckon for the insurgents/mercenaries/whatever we'd use the custom Stasiland civilian models, and have them be able to buy the loose protective vests from vendors, such as the mil-grade vest and sf-grade vests to wear over their regular models.
I guess we'd either make the craftable merc suits buyable from vendors at higher prices or have them remain as a crafting recipe.

Imo. Have Special Forces grade vests left out for NATO. Have them accessible through events, or NATO just supplying them to insurgents. Best to have Commando and mercenary craftable. and militia left for requisition.

 

[Cuttsy]

those models are really good

 

[echs dee]

those models are really good

imo, the models could have had the classic hl2 heads instead (with all the BG's)
just adds a bit more diversity

 

[steambored]

imo, the models could have had the classic hl2 heads instead (with all the BG's)
just adds a bit more diversity

would have also liked the ability to have gloves too

 

[Codfather]

I always feel like WW3:RP 2014-2016/2017 managed to have the perfect playerbase at the perfect time that could transition from S2K into RP seamlessly and enjoy both aspects the server had to offer.

If anything could capture what that had it's this community, I'd say.

 

[Mancom37]

I had fun with multiple iterations of WW3RP and the characters I made, from the only black guy in the Warsaw faction to the Bavarian terrorist cell, I know I will have fun in whatever you guys might plan for the future so go for it you have my support.

 

[FreeSpy]

on another note, i dont really mind the lore either-way because my only real gripe was playermodel equipment, if the lore advanced it to 2007/2009 level of equipment, id probably jump back in a heart-beat.

Early to mid 2000s aka 2000-2010 would be so fucking nice, cause i'd like some major balkan action type shit, like bosnian wars, cause they're really not that explored within the 'war' type of games. would be cool if some big ass balkan conflict broke out such as a civil war that'd do the story some good.

 

[Roosebud]

Early to mid 2000s aka 2000-2010 would be so fucking nice, cause i'd like some major balkan action type shit, like bosnian wars, cause they're really not that explored within the 'war' type of games. would be cool if some big ass balkan conflict broke out such as a civil war that'd do the story some good.

I dunno about that one to be honest. I know a bunch of people have this profound interest (going to avoid the term obsession) in the bosnian/serbian stuff.

But the overall cold war lore was already called ‘too niche’, now imagine a setting that isn’t even covered in most schools, besides being able to count the people that could realistically portray such characters on one hand.

I’m sure the balkan region could be touched in the lore at some point, after all the entire region was conquered by the soviets during 1983 events. It’d be somewhere deep down the line though, as we’d have to naturally progress from western europe to that region with the characters and factions.

It wouldn’t necessarily have to be the 2000s either, seeing as the balkan conflict would never happen as it did in real life due to the events that affected the timeline.

 

[Ond]

I always feel like WW3:RP 2014-2016/2017 managed to have the perfect playerbase at the perfect time that could transition from S2K into RP seamlessly and enjoy both aspects the server had to offer.

If anything could capture what that had it's this community, I'd say.

the ww3rp community from 15-17 was literally the worst part of nebulous imaginable

 

[Roosebud]

I always feel like WW3:RP 2014-2016/2017 managed to have the perfect playerbase at the perfect time that could transition from S2K into RP seamlessly and enjoy both aspects the server had to offer.

If anything could capture what that had it's this community, I'd say.

Honestly speaking, I feel like most of this is down to either nostalgia, a closed perspective because people played in groups strictly comprised of their friends or both.

Looking back in the archives, screenshots, less-than-perfect experiences people share etc, most issues we faced during the ‘later’ stages of WW3RP were also very much present back then, just not as freshly embedded in memory.