Future of the videogame industry

[Zeo Mause]

This is kind of a debate type of discussion. Please discuss and understand. My discussion is possible game industry crashes.

My verdict of it: Soon, we will have a video game crash, just like in the early to mid 80s'. Right now, the gaming industry looks like shit, don't deny it... you can't say that the industry is booming and you are flocking to go get games. When I was a youngster, I would buy games left and right, enjoying them and playing them each day. Now, I thought that I was growing old of video games and I don't have that type of 'buzz' for games anymore, but my friend told me, that it isn't that I am growing old of it. It's just that games nowadays are complete rubbish. I totally agree.

Now, you may be asking, why would it crash? Many reasons, dumbass designs, money-grubbing corporate business jerkoffs, and overall talent is lost. Now, you see games that come out with sequels and are trash. You also see games that are too high priced and over-hyped. I hope the industry does crash, because in the end, gaming companies will learn their lessons (hopefully) and make games enjoyable again. In today's society, we only care about money and how to spend it. Gaming companies make these polished, over-priced and over-hyped games to fill their pockets. Plus they rig the reviews to make their game look like it is a masterpiece.

WHEN this crash does occur, many employees may be laid off. Sadly, that is the downside of this game industry crash, it will make people lose jobs. People like me, that want to go into the industry, may not have a chance. Which scares me.

If you have anything to say about this, go ahead.

 

[Mendel]

bruh gaming isnt losing interest if people are winning millions of $$ from it, w/ more than a billion people playing video game worldwide

 

[Zeo Mause]

bruh gaming isnt losing interest if people are winning millions of $$ from it, w/ more than a billion people playing video game worldwide

In the future it will, take a glace around online. Do you think people are going to keep buying these over-priced, shit games? I know I won't, it is the brainless people that do that. Pre-order a game when they could buy it at the same price when it releases.

 

[Deleted member 377]

In the future it will, take a glace around online. Do you think people are going to keep buying these over-priced, shit games?

yes lol

 

[Zeo Mause]

yes lol

Maybe. Or maybe they will just give up and figure out that 40 pounds or 60 usd could be used to fix their car or buy some food, instead of buying a rubbish game. And it isn't me that just debates this, many other game experts predict this too.

 

[A_cRaZeD_hObO]

dumb opinion

 

[Zeo Mause]

dumb opinion

What's dumb about it? And when I mean 'crash' , not like the crash of 83'. I mean, it will decrease in sales maybe a margin or a percentage like 25%.

 

['77 East]

Even if the market becomes truly over-saturated to the point where it 'might' crash like the 80's, it's not going to.

Why? It's getting too much revenue and money pumped through it; in the 80s nothing was standardized and even the consoles had a relative small shelf-life before being discarded; games didn't offer anything but a few hours of fun, at most.

Now? You can buy a (presumably shit but whatever) game off the shelf for 40 bucks, and enjoy roughly fifty to a hundred hours of whatever. Graphics have improved, ideals have improved, technology has improved. Couple that with standardization (there's only 3 major companies producing consoles and the only non-console form of gaming is through PC's) and there's no way to flood the market with torrents of utter copy-pasted bullshit anymore.

Also, the whole idea about you 'not growing old' and that 'games just suck now' is also biased. What were your parents saying about music? What were your grandparents saying about wars? Everything isn't 'what it used to be' when you grow up; because surprise - you grew up. Perspectives changes, the times change.

Maybe. Or maybe they will just give up and figure out that 40 pounds or 60 usd could be used to fix their car or buy some food, instead of buying a rubbish game.

People buy games, useless shit they don't need and rack up debt to escape the inequalities/dullness of life. As long as there is a need for escapism, such industries will continue to thrive and leach off humanity. Not that it's a bad thing -- it's just human nature.

 

[Zeo Mause]

Even if the market becomes truly over-saturated to the point where it 'might' crash like the 80's, it's not going to.

Why? It's getting too much revenue and money pumped through it; in the 80s nothing was standardized and even the consoles had a relative small shelf-life before being discarded; games didn't offer anything but a few hours of fun, at most.

Now? You can buy a (presumably shit but whatever) game off the shelf for 40 bucks, and enjoy roughly fifty to a hundred hours of whatever. Graphics have improved, ideals have improved, technology has improved. Couple that with standardization (there's only 3 major companies producing consoles and the only non-console form of gaming is through PC's) and there's no way to flood the market with torrents of utter copy-pasted bullshit anymore.

Also, the whole idea about you 'not growing old' and that 'games just suck now' is also biased. What were your parents saying about music? What were your grandparents saying about wars? Everything isn't 'what it used to be' when you grow up; because surprise - you grew up. Perspectives changes, the times change.



People buy games, useless shit they don't need and rack up debt to escape the inequalities/dullness of life. As long as there is a need for escapism, such industries will continue to thrive and leach off humanity. Not that it's a bad thing -- it's just human nature.

Of course it won't crash like in the 80s', you are definitely right, but there will be a spike sooner or later that will show a percent loss of revenue. But, you can't say that games aren't over-priced and over-hyped. Call of Duty franchise isn't booming. No Man's Sky is definitely not booming. You know why? Too much money and little to no effort on them. Call of Duty's multiplayer is the damn same thing, but people buy it because they're stupid. No Man's Sky is self-explanatory. It seems like the AAA games are dominating the most, and why not? Since they pretty much own the fuckin' gaming industry to start with. Indie games seems like they don't have a chance anymore. Steam Greenlight (or when it was active) gave an opportunity, but still didn't follow through too well. All I'm saying is that the gaming industry is going to take a massive dip in revenue one way or the other. People will soon find out.

 

[A_cRaZeD_hObO]

What's dumb about it?

the game industry is the strongest its ever been. literally billions and billions more are spent on making, buying and selling games. the methods of distribution are more efficient. dumb restrictive platforms that make you pay for an internet connection for no reason and maintain control over any and all games available on their platform are either becoming less popular or are adapting (xbox/ps). much much much more ease in creating games has lead to some of the best games ever created. i can list and list indie games that have hugely progressed gaming and completely shifted how people look at some genres.

Gaming companies make these polished, over-priced and over-hyped games to fill their pockets. Plus they rig the reviews to make their game look like it is a masterpiece.

that was happening before- it happens less frequently now, because no one needs to stand for it and we're all decently aware of these practices. you can pirate the games, or just buy another game. you can also find plenty of unpaid and unbiased reviewers on steam or youtube.

You also see games that are too high priced and over-hyped.

this was happening MUCH MORE before on earlier gaming platforms. 60/70/80 euro for the average game was the norm, now that's absolutely unheard of unless it's a triple A title that also has some anti piracy software attached to it.

Now, you see games that come out with sequels and are trash.

yeah and they fail pretty often, and it's still always happened. Jack and Daxter 3 was pure shite but they still made it

Now, I thought that I was growing old of video games and I don't have that type of 'buzz' for games anymore, but my friend told me, that it isn't that I am growing old of it. It's just that games nowadays are complete rubbish. I totally agree.

and how old was your friend? because what you've described is exactly what's happening to a lot of older folk- games don't grab my attention any more because i've played so fucking many, and they kind of blend together unless it's unique. that's probably why we're both still playing gmod tbh....

from every metric the gaming industry is booming (i'll concede that the growing mobile market isnt a GREAT sign). there's more choices, more individual developers can make the game of their dreams, the market isn't heavily restricted and bloated thanks to Steam, and VR is coming oh boy i'm excited. i could MAYBE see big game devs get fucked by very popular, inexpensive indie games drowning them out but i don't see it as likely. the movie business has been making the same shit for half a century and no one's gave a shit- same with games.

tldr; more games, at a cheaper price and better ways to get them = better not worse

 

[Deleted member 906]

Maybe. Or maybe they will just give up and figure out that 40 pounds or 60 usd could be used to fix their car or buy some food, instead of buying a rubbish game. And it isn't me that just debates this, many other game experts predict this too.

Y... you're an idiot unless you can provide the statistics to back that up.

 

[Zeo Mause]

the game industry is the strongest its ever been. literally billions and billions more are spent on making, buying and selling games. the methods of distribution are more efficient. dumb restrictive platforms that make you pay for an internet connection for no reason and maintain control over any and all games available on their platform are either becoming less popular or are adapting (xbox/ps). much much much more ease in creating games has lead to some of the best games ever created. i can list and list indie games that have hugely progressed gaming and completely shifted how people look at some genres.


that was happening before- it happens less frequently now, because no one needs to stand for it and we're all decently aware of these practices. you can pirate the games, or just buy another game. you can also find plenty of unpaid and unbiased reviewers on steam or youtube.


this was happening MUCH MORE before on earlier gaming platforms. 60/70/80 euro for the average game was the norm, now that's absolutely unheard of unless it's a triple A title that also has some anti piracy software attached to it.


yeah and they fail pretty often, and it's still always happened. Jack and Daxter 3 was pure shite but they still made it


and how old was your friend? because what you've described is exactly what's happening to a lot of older folk- games don't grab my attention any more because i've played so fucking many, and they kind of blend together unless it's unique. that's probably why we're both still playing gmod tbh....

from every metric the gaming industry is booming (i'll concede that the growing mobile market isnt a GREAT sign). there's more choices, more individual developers can make the game of their dreams, the market isn't heavily restricted and bloated thanks to Steam, and VR is coming oh boy i'm excited. i could MAYBE see big game devs get fucked by very popular, inexpensive indie games drowning them out but i don't see it as likely. the movie business has been making the same shit for half a century and no one's gave a shit- same with games.

tldr; more games, at a cheaper price and better ways to get them = better not worse

Hmmm, okay. You make a fair point. But, as for me, I am not going to be one of those consumers that pre-order games and buy those 'pretty little AAA games'. Nowadays, I look for games that have TRUE quality with them. I feel that AAA games now are just out of this world crud. A good bit of people have that feeling too. I don't know.
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Y... you're an idiot unless you can provide the statistics to back that up.

Well, I can't, it is off of my opinion and other folks on the inter-webs.
Also everyone reading this, if someone has a point to make and you disagree with it. You don't call them an idiot or stupid or dumb, that is just completely unacceptable and rude. Especially @Wolfaye™ just don't. I like making points and opinions, and I like seeing people support or go against it, but you don't have to be rude and especially a person in your position being rude to a member of the community is out of this world unacceptable. If you don't have something to say nice, don't say it all. Well, I think I got my answer from @A_cRaZeD_hObO™ , by the way, well done. I agree to most of points and you showed me different. Good for you.

 

[jb]

The gaming market will never crash, at least while any of us are alive.
The reason the gaming market crashed in the 1980s was because it was new and at the time, only shit games were made.

 

[Saggy]

It'd probably be a good thing for consumers if the game market crashed, in the long run at least

Crashes create competition and are good for consumers like us, it's how Nintendo was born and back then Nintendo was some amazing shit

Might force companies to make less shitty games and fuck over their customers less

 

[ddæ]

Maybe. Or maybe they will just give up and figure out that 40 pounds or 60 usd could be used to fix their car or buy some food, instead of buying a rubbish game. And it isn't me that just debates this, many other game experts predict this too.

An 8-16 year old doesn't have to worry about buying food for themselves or fixing up a car because their parents do that, literally. There'll always be level sales in the video game market because there will always be 8-16 year olds.

 

[ruben slikk]

In the future it will, take a glace around online. Do you think people are going to keep buying these over-priced, shit games?

Yes, because, whatever your opinion might be, they're fun to the average gamer, and $50 isn't a huge financial setback for a lot of people in the gaming community.

As long as people have disposable income, "overpriced, shit" (that's your opinion) AAA games will be bought.

I'm pretty sure the videogame industry is stronger than it has ever been, with the popularization of it and the fact that it's extremely mainstream now and no longer just restricted to nerds and losers.

 

[Zeo Mause]

Yes, because, whatever your opinion might be, they're fun to the average gamer, and $50 isn't a huge financial setback for a lot of people in the gaming community.

As long as people have disposable income, "overpriced, shit" (that's your opinion) AAA games will be bought.

I'm pretty sure the videogame industry is stronger than it has ever been, with the popularization of it and the fact that it's extremely mainstream now and no longer just restricted to nerds and losers.

Well, I can tell you. There hasn't been a really, really, really good game in a while. A game that is a guarantee buy to the consumers. Right now, AAA games don't look good to me. Call of Duty: WW2 just looks like a child's book campaign and the multiplayer is the same old multiplayer. You know why E3 sucked this year? Because developers are running out of ideas. Can't you see what developers are doing? They just want your damn money. You think that game developers sit in their offices and enjoy and drink coffee? No, they sweat their asses off and make a rushed game. That is why, games now are full of bugs because developers release the game and fix bugs later.

 

[ruben slikk]

There hasn't been a really, really, really good game in a while.

Most people don't especially want a really, really, really good game. They just want a fun game to pass time and have fun with friends.

A game that is a guarantee buy to the consumers.

Not really; because franchises dominate the market and those are guarantee buys to fans. You talk about Call of Duty WW2 being the way it is, but that's because it's a franchise, it will be bought no matter what. personally I'm buying it because I'm a fucking idiot and I love CoD lol

 

[Zeo Mause]

Most people don't especially want a really, really, really good game. They just want a fun game to pass time and have fun with friends.



Not really; because franchises dominate the market and those are guarantee buys to fans. You talk about Call of Duty WW2 being the way it is, but that's because it's a franchise, it will be bought no matter what. personally I'm buying it because I'm a fucking idiot and I love CoD lol

What? What games have you been playing? Of course people want good games, why buy a shit game? I mean, you are right about people want a fun game to pass time and have fun, but they also want a game that will last and has some thought into it. That is creative in some way. You are right, franchises do dominate the market, but how long do you think that'll last? Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare 5? No one is going to keep buying games they see over and over and over again. They want something fresh. People that don't like fresh and creative games are just silly. Should be slapped silly too. Silly willys that buy stale games should be taught what real games look like. Like Half Life, GTA, and Fallout (all franchises, but ones that have never let us down and became stale in some sort of way or dropped rating)

 

[ruben slikk]

Of course people want good games, why buy a shit game?

I didn't say they don't want good games. I feel like I didn't say it right - they do want very very good games, but they'll make do with a decent game that's fun. If a really amazing, thought provoking game with intense, creative gameplay and an intricately weaved, non-linear storyline comes out, it's gonna be bought, but that doesn't come very often, because the aforementioned decent, fun games have proven to sell either way.

No one is going to keep buying games they see over and over and over again.

People have been saying that for like a decade, but CoD, Battlefield, FIFA and similar games are not slowing down at all.

People that don't like fresh and creative games are just silly. Should be slapped silly too.

I don't think so. Just respect what people want to play. They don't need a The Last of Us or a Fallout: New Vegas when they can do just fine with Battlefield 1 or Black Ops 3.