History Thread

[Akula]

yes they did its still a reason they lost the war regardless, had they actually prepared for war by building fortifications/airfields and their presence was for more than negotiation means we wouldn't of been able to attack and defeat them, but what do you expect when its a battle being fought on an island 7,800 miles away from mainland Britain compared to 1,100 miles from buenos aires.

put the british and argentinian military face to face on an even playing field where they can both utilise their air force, navy and army and the winner will without a doubt be britain. argentina simply didnt have the means of production or economy to support a full on war and had trouble projecting what military power they had beyond their mainland

You're seeming to forget that at the time the war happened the British economy was also fucked and especially their military. The British had pretty much one shot to win the war, any Argentinian victory, no matter how minor, would have sent them home due to the logistical impossibility for the UK to fund the war. And that nearly happened quite a few times, had the Argentinians sunk a few more ships the British never would have reached the Islands in the first place. It got so close at one point Thatcher wanted to nuke Buenos Aires lmao.

As for "the means of production" that doesn't really matter since they got top of the line American equipment due to their position as an American ally in the region. I really hate this narrative that the British pushed that it was a flawless victory and the Argentinian military was nothing more than a bunch of retarded conscripts, when it's pretty much blatant propaganda and false.

 

[Deleted member 1381]

You're seeming to forget that at the time the war happened the British economy was also fucked and especially their military. The British had pretty much one shot to win the war, any Argentinian victory, no matter how minor, would have sent them home due to the logistical impossibility for the UK to fund the war. And that nearly happened quite a few times, had the Argentinians sunk a few more ships the British never would have reached the Islands in the first place.

i stand corrected then, im looking at the british army through rose tinted glasses

I really hate this narrative that the British pushed that it was a flawless victory and the Argentinian military was nothing more than a bunch of retarded conscripts, when it's pretty much blatant propaganda and false.

i agree

 

[Akula]

i stand corrected then, im looking at the british army through rose tinted glasses


i agree

what are you doing you're supposed to CONTINUE THE ARGUMENT YOU FUCKING IDIOT WE DONT HAVE REASONABLE DEBATES HERE!!!!

 

[ddæ]

what are you doing you're supposed to CONTINUE THE ARGUMENT YOU FUCKING IDIOT WE DONT HAVE REASONABLE DEBATES HERE!!!!

we've infiltrated some sort of strange simulation

 

[Gabby]

Come visit the Southern States of America! We're full of history.



What a cruel thing war is... to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors.
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We failed, but in the good providence of God apparent failure often proves a blessing.

I have fought against the people of the North because I believed they were seeking to wrest from the South its dearest rights. But I have never cherished toward them bitter or vindictive feelings, and I have never seen the day when I did not pray for them.
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We must expect reverses, even defeats. They are sent to teach us wisdom and prudence, to call forth greater energies, and to prevent our falling into greater disasters.​

 

[afric]

the south got owned into the fucking grave

 

[Dr Heckyll]

 

[mårten]

rebel scum

 

[Gabby]

the south got owned into the fucking grave

The absolute state of Southern politics

 

[Dr Heckyll]

rebel scum

I think you got it the wrong way around...

 

[keiiou]

 

[Black Rain (1989)]

The post-reconstruction revisionism with regards to the American Civil War is interesting.

How a lot of pro-South Historians span the whole noble in defeat mentality - and of course distenced the South from fighting for the institution of slavery.

 

[CloudBucket]

colonization of Jerusalem through force

 

[maga]

what are you doing you're supposed to CONTINUE THE ARGUMENT YOU FUCKING IDIOT WE DONT HAVE REASONABLE DEBATES HERE!!!!

fuck you idiot argentina was fill opf pissy panmnts conscripts fuck you fuck you

british special force sonly causialty is friendly fire fuck fuck you fat retard Australia fuck

 

[tera]

holy shit tito's voice
another cool laddo that says a big fuck u to joseph stalin after he took control of socialist yugoslavia post-ww2, not being part of their big satelite bloc. Definitely another historical figure I'd want to learn up more on.

 

[afric]

if you don't know Tito what are you even doing

 

[tera]

if you don't know Tito what are you even doing

i know to some extent, i wanna learn up more definitely but lacking the time bro

 

[afric]

i know to some extent, i wanna learn up more definitely but lacking the time bro

his greatest feat was probs not allowing Yugoslavia to explode into the mess that was made after his death and commanding the partisans to liberate Yugoslavia solo

 

[Deleted member 1381]

 

[Bronn]