Serious HL2RP∞ Screenshot Thread

[Reggie]

oocly protect your deen brother

 

[Numbers]

yeah so remove OOC protection entirely
not counting the OOC protection of "being really good at S2K", but that's an entirely different issue that stems from the disconnect between RP and the abrupt change to CSGO

his ooc protection involved like a 40% protection suit that reduced all damage by 40% alongside other shit like controlling the BMD economy

if people like him were killable, the system would break down in like a week tops

 

[MaXenzie]

his ooc protection involved like a 40% protection suit that reduced all damage by 40% alongside other shit like controlling the BMD economy

if people like him were killable, the system would break down in like a week tops

then let it break down
and break down and down and down
until someone fit enough to lead leads

of course this only works in a rational world that doesn't have internet trolls and cunts that want to disrupt the heads of power for shits and giggles and would attempt to assassinate the head rebel regardless of suppose IC relationships and goals

 

[Rabid]

yeah so remove OOC protection entirely
not counting the OOC protection of "being really good at S2K", but that's an entirely different issue that stems from the disconnect between RP and the abrupt change to CSGO

he was OOCly protected in super subtle ways

When Numbers says "super subtle ways" he means that nobody was going to try and kill the person keeping RebelRP together - especially because the people who did the most PKing to keep their powerbase were all in the same circles and groups (who themselves also didn't really face PK's for that same reason).

Harry is unique in that he had so much clout and gravitas that he could hold RebelRP together even when he was doing things that would have gotten literally any other person PK'd a thousand times over - he joked to me that everyone in RebelRP had PK auths on him but he wasn't fussed.

Or to sum it up; when the groups of people who were most likely to remove any OOC obstacles in their way through various means are also the ones keeping things afloat there's not much risk of the retards who'll try and randomly undermining it actually undermining it.

That's also why the Railroad had OOC protection for the longest time, because a lot of these people were now on the other side of the fence and absolutely would have killed them all the first chance they got and there was no Harry to keep things afloat after the first week or two of Helix.

 

[MaXenzie]

When Numbers says "super subtle ways" he means that nobody was going to try and kill the person keeping RebelRP together - especially because the people who did the most PKing to keep their powerbase were all in the same circles and groups (who themselves also didn't really face PK's for that same reason).

Harry is unique in that he had so much clout and gravitas that he could hold RebelRP together even when he was doing things that would have gotten literally any other person PK'd a thousand times over - he joked to me that everyone in RebelRP had PK auths on him but he wasn't fussed.

Or to sum it up; when the groups of people who were most likely to remove any OOC obstacles in their way through various means are also the ones keeping things afloat there's not much risk of the retards who'll try and randomly undermining it actually undermining it.

That's also why the Railroad had OOC protection for the longest time, because a lot of these people were now on the other side of the fence and absolutely would have killed them all the first chance they got and there was no Harry to keep things afloat after the first week or two of Helix.

i mean this is basically just warlord strats
kill the people who'd actually dare to threaten you and then force all the people who control the economy (crafters) to work for you or die

 

[Rabid]

i mean this is basically just warlord strats
kill the people who'd actually dare to threaten you and then force all the people who control the economy (crafters) to work for you or die

The problem is that keeping that powerbase involved a lot of things that would be considered incredibly shitty and shady these days. It worked back then because all of the people who could have kicked off about it were on the side that gained from it.

And if someone builds that sort of powerbase, you can't just OOCly take it away from them (though that was tried on LP twice) so what happens if the wrong person gets into power who has enough clout to not die but also does nothing but fuck other people over and make themselves top dog?

That's the sort of shit that can ruin the health of the server sadly. Even in Helix 1.0 had people who'd been under Harry previously that tried to get power for themselves in that regard by demanding the Railway be able to be killed off and taken over, people that nobody wanted anywhere near that sort of control.

 

[john]

i think this argument is beyond silly
he just didnt care about giving out pk auths and no one else making moves benefited from killing him so no one did

there was no "ooc protection" beyond having a lot of friends
we gonna outlaw being a charismatic fella??

he took initiative, he got things done ingame, people gravitated towards him
counter suggestion, network, get ur own resistance friends

 

[Blackquill]

his ooc protection involved like a 40% protection suit that reduced all damage by 40% alongside other shit like controlling the BMD economy

if people like him were killable, the system would break down in like a week tops

Custom suits were removed very early on in nebs lifetime for this reason. (To clarify, not because of harry but because of bullshit stats that disrupted any semblence of balance)

The BMD system was also heavily overhauled/removed in response to many complaints

Yet people STILL wanted them back.

 

[Tinbe]

Custom suits were removed very early on in nebs lifetime for this reason. (To clarify, not because of harry but because of bullshit stats that disrupted any semblence of balance)

The BMD system was also heavily overhauled/removed in response to many complaints

Yet people STILL wanted them back.

Every rebel back then thought they were a temporarily embarrassed Simeon.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

[Merlinsclaw]

I’m like 90% sure chez had OOC protection lol

 

['77 East]

his ooc protection involved like a 40% protection suit that reduced all damage by 40% alongside other shit like controlling the BMD economy

if people like him were killable, the system would break down in like a week tops

@ruble blew him up with a grenade when a few of us protested violently against the judicator system (which was all voided when they were removed), although he wasn't aiming for him in particular.

despite those suits being incredibly overpowered they offered 0 protection against explosive damage and that's why vortigaunts back then were overpowered too.

Even in Helix 1.0 had people who'd been under Harry previously that tried to get power for themselves in that regard by demanding the Railway be able to be killed off and taken over, people that nobody wanted anywhere near that sort of control.

It's worth noting that there were barely any problems with the system under Harry, when Tzula took control it went to shit for pretty obvious reasons (incapable of running the faction, brown-nosing headstaff over keeping shit together, sky high profit margins & trying to ban crafters over how they rated posts on the forums instead of focusing on people's genuine complaints).

There were valid reasons why the Railway was completely crap for most of it's existence, a good chunk of them leadership problems.

I’m like 90% sure chez had OOC protection lol

He got shot three times with an AK to the head during heavy snow and didn't die.

 

[Merlinsclaw]

@ruble blew him up with a grenade when a few of us protested violently against the judicator system (which was all voided when they were removed), although he wasn't aiming for him in particular.

despite those suits being incredibly overpowered they offered 0 protection against explosive damage and that's why vortigaunts back then were overpowered too.


It's worth noting that there were barely any problems with the system under Harry, when Tzula took control it went to shit for pretty obvious reasons (incapable of running the faction, brown-nosing headstaff over keeping shit together, sky high profit margins & trying to ban crafters over how they rated posts on the forums instead of focusing on people's genuine complaints).

There were valid reasons why the Railway was completely crap for most of it's existence, a good chunk of them leadership problems.


He got shot three times with an AK to the head during heavy snow and didn't die.

Crafting in Helix 1 was so aids. I don't know why they refused to give crafting flags to anyone that wasn't in the railway tbh

 

[Numbers]

He got shot three times with an AK to the head during heavy snow and didn't die.

vortigaunts have no head hitboxes

 

[Blackquill]

I’m like 90% sure chez had OOC protection lol

What does "OOC protection" even mean

 

[Trains]

this was like 8 years ago why are we arguing

 

[john]

I’m like 90% sure chez had OOC protection lol

his status quo was being a retard so he got the benefit of the doubt over and over

whats this obsession with OOC protection lol
99.99% of this server prefer to do fuckall and complain on the forums and could have just as easily killed any of the characters mentioned. they just didnt.

me and @GenericPlayer blew him up with a radio once no one was "protecting" him
when people are running any kind of initiative people either have friends or they have a bunch of people who want them dead usually they have friends

yes old custom suits on lemonpunch were silly, no, no one had any "OOC protection" on nebulous . cloud beyond the friends they kept

 

[Numbers]

this was like 8 years ago why are we arguing

can u expand the cec already people want tokens . .

 

[Trains]

can u expand the cec already people want tokens . .

IVE BEEN BUSY MAN

 

[Rabid]

yes old custom suits on lemonpunch were silly, no, no one had any "OOC protection" on nebulous . cloud beyond the friends they kept

When I say 'OOC protection' I meant the combination of extreme clout and a willingness to use multiple friends/positions/factions to keep ahead of everyone else on the character he cared about.

I'm not trying to paint him as the devil but it happened, man. I saw that shit happen 5-6 times minimum - some of it on Neb rather than LP - that I can recall in perfect detail.

Crafting in Helix 1 was so aids. I don't know why they refused to give crafting flags to anyone that wasn't in the railway tbh

Because most of the people left who openly wanted to build monopolies would have done so in a fucking abysmal way and because "IC is IC" nothing could have been done to oust them.

 

[MaXenzie]

What does "OOC protection" even mean

an admin dives in front and takes the bullet on your behalf