Serious Lancer 2 City 8 edit (City 8: Definitive Edition)

[Aspect™]

Hello!

I don't post very often, but I wanted to gather feedback from as many sources as possible, so here I am. I run my own HL2RP server, and I have made my own edit of City 8 for it. There is a full list of changes on the workshop page here, but you can get a basic idea from the screenshots. I tried to combine the best parts of various other City 8 edits as well as my own takes on it to create what I think is a fairly decent take on this classic map.

Here is the most recent major update, adding several new areas and many improvements to existing ones:


Here are a few images for those who are too lazy to check the page (it's also a little outdated at the time of posting this, I'll update it soon):

Spoiler: Image spam

I'm open to all sorts of feedback as well as suggestions to improve the map further! Thank you all in advance.

 

[Aspect™]

Also thanks to @Dev for letting me use his wonderful City 8 Redux edit for inspiration/reference on some things.

 

[Sneedsformerlychucks]

Looks great, I like the Park and the Subway.

 

[Deleted member 7969]

Really like it, how does the train spawning system work? Do people spawn in the train while it's moving or do they just spawn standing outside?

 

[Aspect™]

Really like it, how does the train spawning system work? Do people spawn in the train while it's moving or do they just spawn standing outside?

So there are two trains, a fake and a real one. When they first create a character, they spawn in the fake train, then a few seconds later they are teleported to the real train (this is relative to their position on the fake train, making the teleport almost seamless) which moves them to the subway station at which point they can depart, and the train leaves on its own. Two trains were needed so one of them can act as a 'queue' in case multiple people created a character at the same time.
That being said, this entire system is handled in-code on my server; not the map itself.

 

[Andrew]

I'll edit this post later but straight away I wanted to comment that you chose the correct neon colours for image two, they really add a lot of atmosphere. I'm not the biggest fan of city 8 but I'm a fan of the color sprawl so far
i'll check it out in singleplayer later

 

[Rabid]

I appreciate you've combined some of the other City 8 edits TnB did into this one.

This version of C8 in particular (the base map that is) is probably one of the best and most edited for a reason and I think your edit has done a fantastic job of breathing new life into what was honestly otherwise getting incredibly stale.

I also appreciate you haven't tried to reinvent the wheel with this edit, and instead just added more of what the base map probably needed.

 

['77 East]

I also appreciate you haven't tried to reinvent the wheel with this edit, and instead just added more of what the base map probably needed.

verticality was something experimented with in the original maps, this doesn't look like it's done much on that front

 

[Aspect™]

verticality was something experimented with in the original maps, this doesn't look like it's done much on that front

I love verticality in maps, so with my edit, I tried to add some wherever possible. I added a new bridge connecting RB1 & RB2 (inspired by the neb edit of c8), and another similar bridge on the other road leading to the train station. I also added rooftop access to some buildings and a few smaller things wherever possible, but ultimately the layout of the map didn't make it very easy to come up with more things.

Spoiler: Images

 

['77 East]

ultimately the layout of the map didn't make it very easy to come up with more things

why not use pipe props for branching rooftops, etc? more subtle methods than endless bridge expansion.

city 8_2 did this for some areas, I know c8 isn't great when it comes to rooftops due to the skybox penning stuff in but still.

 

[Aspect™]

why not use pipe props for branching rooftops, etc? more subtle methods than endless bridge expansion.

city 8_2 did this for some areas, I know c8 isn't great when it comes to rooftops due to the skybox penning stuff in but still.

Hmm, I considered it, also the little 'lips' that some buildings had in C8 2 that allowed you to almost completely walk around them, but I couldn't find a good place to put them. Then again, I'm not the most creative person, so that's likely why. I'll keep it mind and see if I can put those somewhere in future edits.

 

[Deleted member 8637]

What is Lancer aiming to be? An alternative to Impulse? Or an alternative to Nebulous/Willards?

 

[Aspect™]

What is Lancer aiming to be? An alternative to Impulse? Or an alternative to Nebulous/Willards?

It's not aiming to be an alternative to anything. We're just trying to create a fun CityRP server for people to enjoy. It's currently whitelisted and only opens on Friday through Monday. If I had to compare it to something, I'd say something like Willard, but without such a big focus on gameplay and instead more focus on roleplay and stricter quality control.

 

[Generally Fruity]

why not use pipe props for branching rooftops, etc? more subtle methods than endless bridge expansion.

city 8_2 did this for some areas, I know c8 isn't great when it comes to rooftops due to the skybox penning stuff in but still.

Ledges and parkour spots too

 

[Aspect™]

Minor update, a few small additions/changes here and there:

Spoiler: Changes

Split up the Clinic examination room into two separate rooms instead of one large one

Added a backdoor to one of the new stores - more accessibility

Added a second ladder to this area to improve movement and give people more options in navigating around there

Added some more windows to the two apartments here, following the theme with the new RB4 window style​

I'm still looking for feedback and improving the map wherever I can, thank you all for the support!

 

[Aspect™]

I'm back! Despite Source's best efforts, I managed to push another update through blood, sweat, and tears. God, I hate this fucking engine with a burning passion.



Workshop addon will probably be updated tomorrow. As always, feedback is welcome!

 

[Aspect™]

More map shit. I must have an undiagnosed case of masochism with Source at this point.

 

[Aspect™]

Another update is out:



I cannot keep myself from updating this stupid 11-year-old map. This is a cry for help.
Feedback is welcome as always.