the last of us part II (potential spoilers ahead)

[Jaf]

I think it's pretty common knowledge that user ratings are more public opinion on the game rather than the actual craft behind the game.

 

[MaXenzie]

I think it's pretty common knowledge that user ratings are more public opinion on the game rather than the actual craft behind the game.

yeah

we knew hunt down the freeman was going to be dogshit so reviews weren't scathing

 

[Jaf]

It's kinda the difference between making a shitty painting and uh...

 

[dallahan]

is it still a sex scene if there are no tits shown

 

[Deleted member 28]

(Posted about this in screenshot thread and didn't realize this thread existed at the time)
That's how a woman looks like when very muscular. There's not much fatty tissue left in breasts, if one does lots of upper-body workout - regardless of gender. Unless they have a specific diet for it, IIRC.
Could they have made a female villain character that has a fit, yet feminine physique? Probably. It certainly would've toned down the onslaught of transphobic comments.
As-is, majority of people were given such a revelation on female health that they didn't know what to do with this information. Besides, well, being pretty rude about it.

No one really believes that she's trans, it's just people memeing on the game being bad.

I still don't understand how the hell she is so ripped in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. I get the whole body inclusivity message but it just doesn't make any sense. She looks like she's on a 3 thousand calorie a day diet

 

[MaXenzie]

I still don't understand how the hell she is so ripped in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. I get the whole body inclusivity message but it just doesn't make any sense. She looks like she's on a 3 thousand calorie a day diet

there is ONE scene where she walks past a gym

that's it

 

[Deleted member 3818]

No one really believes that she's trans, it's just people memeing on the game being bad.

I still don't understand how the hell she is so ripped in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. I get the whole body inclusivity message but it just doesn't make any sense. She looks like she's on a 3 thousand calorie a day diet

It’s a little overkill maybe but I’d imagine that being a hardcore lone survivor type in the apocalypse requires quite a good physique. Also if there’s enough food around to feed entire cities you could probably get enough to sustain the amount of calories you need.

 

[chronos]

if i see abby i might have to do that one scene from a bronx tale were those bikers get the shit kicked out of them by the italians

 

[Mute]

You know I have a bit of an issue with the reviews about the game

the game received an extremely high rating from critics (it was something like 95 im not too sure), but it has shit customer reviews

the issue is that the game got more reviews in 24 hours than TLOU 1 did in 7 fucking years, tlou2 is 25 hours long on average, sounds like foul play

The game got completely shit on by people that read the leaked story and found that they dont like it and the game is shit, and most of the people that actually played the game say its not bad or even that they enjoyed it, it sucks

i havent played the game, and im not a fan of tlou1 either so it doesnt matter to me, but a lot of people are either butthurt about

Spoiler: major spoiler

Joels death or abby being muscular and supposedly being trans (even though she isnt lmao)

It sucks, the game was given an unfair chance, hundreds of people spent countless hours and years working on it and people review bombed it cause they didnt like what they read and never even played through the game

 

[Blackquill]

You know I have a bit of an issue with the reviews about the game

the game received an extremely high rating from critics (it was something like 95 im not too sure), but it has shit customer reviews

the issue is that the game got more reviews in 24 hours than TLOU 1 did in 7 fucking years, tlou2 is 25 hours long on average, sounds like foul play

The game got completely shit on by people that read the leaked story and found that they dont like it and the game is shit, and most of the people that actually played the game say its not bad or even that they enjoyed it, it sucks

i havent played the game, and im not a fan of tlou1 either so it doesnt matter to me, but a lot of people are either butthurt about

Spoiler: major spoiler

Joels death or abby being muscular and supposedly being trans (even though she isnt lmao)

It sucks, the game was given an unfair chance, hundreds of people spent countless hours and years working on it and people review bombed it cause they didnt like what they read and never even played through the game

Yeah to be fair my opinion has shifted since the initial garbage fire that was the release day.

The graphics are really nice, and the gameplay seems alright (Still not my thing though). There was a lot of effort put in on those fronts

Spoiler

But I still think the blatant false advertising with Joel was a shit tactic and they didn't do his character justice.

The reviewers also probably sped through the game, used easier difficulties (This has been a thing that happened before, Dark Souls 3 had an easier difficulty programmed in so they could finish it faster) as well as accessiblity options that let you skip puzzles among other things; that is probably how they finished it so quickly.

It's not 10/10 material though, imo. Def. not better than the first game

 

[jb]

It sucks, the game was given an unfair chance, hundreds of people spent countless hours and years working on it and people review bombed it cause they didnt like what they read and never even played through the game

poor naughty dog... maybe they should have crunched their employees harder

 

[Mute]

The reviewers also probably sped through the game, used easier difficulties (This has been a thing that happened before, Dark Souls 3 had an easier difficulty programmed in so they could finish it faster) as well as accessiblity options that let you skip puzzles among other things; that is probably how they finished it so quickly.

Still i find it weird how the game got more reviews in 24 hours than the original tlou did since its original release, i doubt all those people used accessibility options and played it on the easiest difficulty and then play it for 20 hours straight, it just feels scummy as shit

 

[Deleted member 28]

there is ONE scene where she walks past a gym

that's it

Such a lazy way for the devs to justify unrealistically beefing someone up

It’s a little overkill maybe but I’d imagine that being a hardcore lone survivor type in the apocalypse requires quite a good physique. Also if there’s enough food around to feed entire cities you could probably get enough to sustain the amount of calories you need.

Possibly, but considering she isn't apart of one of those big cities and is more affiliated with a fringe group, I just don't see it. This just seems like yet another aspect of the game they've shoehorned in for some thematic purpose. Druckmann is clearly a good writer considering he conceptualized the entirety of TLOU 1 but I can't help to think that he (and the rest of the writing team) suffered the same fate as George Lucas and didn't have enough people who challenged their ideas

You know I have a bit of an issue with the reviews about the game

the game received an extremely high rating from critics (it was something like 95 im not too sure), but it has shit customer reviews

the issue is that the game got more reviews in 24 hours than TLOU 1 did in 7 fucking years, tlou2 is 25 hours long on average, sounds like foul play

The game got completely shit on by people that read the leaked story and found that they dont like it and the game is shit, and most of the people that actually played the game say its not bad or even that they enjoyed it, it sucks

i havent played the game, and im not a fan of tlou1 either so it doesnt matter to me, but a lot of people are either butthurt about

Spoiler: major spoiler

Joels death or abby being muscular and supposedly being trans (even though she isnt lmao)

It sucks, the game was given an unfair chance, hundreds of people spent countless hours and years working on it and people review bombed it cause they didnt like what they read and never even played through the game

I agree, but it isn't like the game's not selling well:
https://www.essentiallysports.com/t...th-record-sales-animal-crossing-esports-news/

From what I've read and heard, most people seriously don't care about what Abby looks like or what Ellie's sexual orientation is. It's just a shame that it feels like the writers carelessly tried to incorporate a lot of elements into the story that simply do not make any sense

I've not watched a full playthrough of the game yet, but this is what I think would generally have worked better

Spoiler

-Have Tommy die to Abby after he doesn't give her any information about Joel, Joel goes missing as he presumably hunts down the people that killed Tommy
-Ellie and her gf go out to find Joel and additionally seek revenge. Nothing would probably have to change in the main parts of the game, and even the portions where Ellie is sad about Joel would make sense considering they don't know where he is or if he's still alive
-Abby remains a playable character. Considering she didn't kill the main beloved character of the series, people won't be so averse to playing her and would have an easier time understanding her
-Final confrontation between Ellie and Abby results in Joel's death somehow as he saves Ellie

That way the game is less about muh revenge and """subverted expectations""" and more in tune with the themes of the first game

 

[Blackquill]

Still i find it weird how the game got more reviews in 24 hours than the original tlou did since its original release, i doubt all those people used accessibility options and played it on the easiest difficulty and then play it for 20 hours straight, it just feels scummy as shit

I'm talking about the game journalist reviews

Although a lot of the user reviews LIKELY saw the leaks and based their opinion on what those revealed. That would be my guess.

 

[Mute]

poor naughty dog... maybe they should have crunched their employees harder

Not defending the company but a lot of the people that worked on it are passionate about game dev and seeing their work just get absolutely trashed on in the first day probably fucking sucks

 

[ButtonLip]

I never bought a ps4 but the game looks nice, I'm interested in the characters and world. Looking forward to playing it someday

 

[MaXenzie]

You know I have a bit of an issue with the reviews about the game

the game received an extremely high rating from critics (it was something like 95 im not too sure), but it has shit customer reviews

the issue is that the game got more reviews in 24 hours than TLOU 1 did in 7 fucking years, tlou2 is 25 hours long on average, sounds like foul play

The game got completely shit on by people that read the leaked story and found that they dont like it and the game is shit, and most of the people that actually played the game say its not bad or even that they enjoyed it, it sucks

i havent played the game, and im not a fan of tlou1 either so it doesnt matter to me, but a lot of people are either butthurt about

Spoiler: major spoiler

Joels death or abby being muscular and supposedly being trans (even though she isnt lmao)

It sucks, the game was given an unfair chance, hundreds of people spent countless hours and years working on it and people review bombed it cause they didnt like what they read and never even played through the game

disagree

not counting the people who gave it a 0/10 simply because of "get woke go broke," you don't need to play a game to know its story, and no amount of good gameplay, graphics, or sound work is going to fix a frankly shit story

everyone knew the story was shit months before it released, why wouldn't they let people know when the game came out
you say that plenty of people played it and said its not bad yet
ordinarygamer uninstalled it on stream
angryjoe had a several minute screaming rant
pewdiepie said that this game is the reason he doesnt get hyped for video games anymore
jim sterling has dedicated an entire week to shitting on this game
tyler1 said the game is hot garbage
xqc regrets playing it at all
a pretty famous south korean streamer cut his disc in half with scissors after the game ended

the reason why this game has great critic reviews is because they were blackmailed into it
sony told them they were not allowed to speak about plot at all, nor factor it into the final score, and if they gave the game a less than stellar score, they'd be blacklisted from ever getting early copies of sony games again

i do not trust people that like this game's story. i believe they are being willfully ignorant or deluding themselves into thinking it's something that it's not. it is not an epic storytelling adventure. it is torture porn and it ruined characters that people have loved for 7 years.

 

[Mute]

the reason why this game has great critic reviews is because they were blackmailed into it
sony told them they were not allowed to speak about plot at all, nor factor it into the final score, and if they gave the game a less than stellar score, they'd be blacklisted from ever getting early copies of sony games again

can i get a source for this

 

[MaXenzie]

can i get a source for this

KnightWing is a video game reviewer who was offered an early copy, he refused it because of Sony's rules and stipulations. he bought it after the game was released and reviewed it freely

Spoiler

 

[Mute]

KnightWing is a video game reviewer who was offered an early copy, he refused it because of Sony's rules and stipulations. he bought it after the game was released and reviewed it freely

Spoiler

Fair enough then