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I think borders shouldn't be a thing because borders are the thing that keeps me in Turkey...
Instead of complaining why don't you try to help your country? No were else is a Turk truly home, than Turkey itself. Or are you one of those people who are lazy and want to take all the western benefits you can get?
 
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Instead of complaining why don't you try to help your country? No were else is a Turk truly home, than Turkey itself. Or are you one of those people who are lazy and want to take all the western benefits you can get?
"help your country"
 

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"help your country"
His Turkish? Why wouldn't he want to help his fellow Turks? That's what a country is, a collection of people of the same race slash ethnic background coming together to help one another. Unless you're telling me you're one of those anarchist nihilist?
 

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Instead of complaining why don't you try to help your country? No were else is a Turk truly home, than Turkey itself. Or are you one of those people who are lazy and want to take all the western benefits you can get?
"help your country" jesus fucking christ, you live in United Kingdom, it's like being rich because your dad is rich and calling poor people lazy because they don't work their ass off and be rich.
 
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My ancestors worker their ass of to make Turkey great but guess what, it's not good much as uk.
I don't know what else I can say...

Either you're greedy and always want more, or you're ancestors didn't do as good as you claim, to come up to your standards?
 

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I don't know what else I can say...

Either you're greedy and always want more, or you're ancestors didn't do as good as you claim, to come up to your standards?
"they didn't do good" go read some Turkish history because you clearly don't know, maybe we have the best history but the fact that when every strong country was against us "my ancestors" had no clothes to wear in middle of winter, they had guns but no ammo but they didn't give up, they didn't eat, they didn't drink they served only one purpose. They didn't complain they only said "independence or death!" we didn't have enough men so children fought, many of them died so Turkey could live longer and we wouldn't be enslaved by the enemy. Because of the independence war we lost lots of men, women and children our education got fucked up. Now we pay for it, coups, murders, men slaughters, terrorists all over the place, corruption only because of one reason "education".
 
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Yeah, that's because my ancestors worked their arse of to get that wealth. You can do the same if you want it.
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I'm sure the people of the congo worked their ass off but they only got their arms amputated and mass genocide
It wasn't really worked either
The British and other colonial empires had better conditions and that let them conquered a large amount of the world and establish great amounts of wealth.
(sorry if I'm ruining the thread I just felt like I should point this out)
 
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I'm sure the people of the congo worked their ass off but they only got their arms amputated and mass genocide
It wasn't really worked either
The British and other colonial empires had better conditions and that let them conquered a large amount of the world and establish great amounts of wealth.
(sorry if I'm ruining the thread I just felt like I should point this out)
I would go into why that's the case but there are a lot of sensitive snowflakes on this forum so I can't really explain it.
 

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restore the ottoman empire
 
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being ethnically alsatian i'd rather die than see alsace under german rule
 

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The issue with Western cultures is that all civilized people who want a better life decide they don't want to go through the hardwork, blood, sweat and wars that Western countries had to fight in order to secure their destiny of liberty and wealth.

USA fought off the British to secure their freedom.
Canada fought under the British in WW1 to secure their independence at Vimy Ridge, the Somme and other battefields.
France fought the Monarchy to over-throw their Monarchic autocracy.
The British fought to have a Parliament and take power from the Kingdom of England.
The Germans fought to unite and confederate under a German empire, then kept fighting to re-establish different governments after the Empire didn't quite pan out, but hey, they eventually got it right...-ish.

My point is not that Turkey sucks, or that all these civilizations suck, it's just that clearly they aren't organizing and putting in the effort to reach the point of enlightenment that early classical liberal philosophers had to put in motion the ground works for a remarkable governmental foundation found within the United States and other countries.

People rather leave their ass-backwards country to flee to a better one than to actually educate and inform the people around them to try and have a quiet revolution of their own, or proceed to bring down the corrupt tyranny that currently rules over them.

We can take the piss out of the U.S. all we want, but they're the only ones who have actively fought for democratic freedoms and Western values in other countries and mount efforts to coup countries held firmly by the iron fists of dictators.
 
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