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please drop with that "work for your country" "fight for your country" stuff because it's not that easy, only thing you do in here is to annoy me nothing else and one of you is from uk and the other one is from canada. literally the top two countries I want to live in lmao
 
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The issue with Western cultures is that all civilized people who want a better life decide they don't want to go through the hardwork, blood, sweat and wars that Western countries had to fight in order to secure their destiny of liberty and wealth.

USA fought off the British to secure their freedom.
Canada fought under the British in WW1 to secure their independence at Vimy Ridge, the Somme and other battefields.
France fought the Monarchy to over-throw their Monarchic autocracy.
The British fought to have a Parliament and take power from the Kingdom of England.
The Germans fought to unite and confederate under a German empire, then kept fighting to re-establish different governments after the Empire didn't quite pan out, but hey, they eventually got it right...-ish.

My point is not that Turkey sucks, or that all these civilizations suck, it's just that clearly they aren't organizing and putting in the effort to reach the point of enlightenment that early classical liberal philosophers had to put in motion the ground works for a remarkable governmental foundation found within the United States and other countries.

People rather leave their ass-backwards country to flee to a better one than to actually educate and inform the people around them to try and have a quiet revolution of their own, or proceed to bring down the corrupt tyranny that currently rules over them.

We can take the piss out of the U.S. all we want, but they're the only ones who have actively fought for democratic freedoms and Western values in other countries and mount efforts to coup countries held firmly by the iron fists of dictators.
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lol the u.s. doesn't fight for "freedom" or whatever other bullshit excuse they like to push. all of those campaigns in the middle east? for the oil. the resources. it's never been about "freedom" or "western values".
 

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lol the u.s. doesn't fight for "freedom" or whatever other bullshit excuse they like to push. all of those campaigns in the middle east? for the oil. the resources. it's never been about "freedom" or "western values".

All wafare is fought for resources,that freedom that others fought (but not in fucking iraq) allowed them to explore those resources.

please drop with that "work for your country" "fight for your country" stuff because it's not that easy, only thing you do in here is to annoy me nothing else and one of you is from uk and the other one is from canada. literally the top two countries I want to live in lmao

Hell my country is a shithole but I do get up and go help the veterans from the colonial war that suffer from PTSD and bang their heads on the walls asking why did they see their mate's legg blow up and standed there helpless,I do go and buy food for the food bank since my country is known to have a bigger unemployed rate then your country,fuck we even see guys in suits coming to the food banks saying that if they want to look miserable at least they get to use their suits maybe someone will hire them for it. It doesn't matter how much your country can be a shithole,fucks sake mine could be considered the laughting stock for german and austrian people yet we work more hours then they do,we try to go throught everyday knowing our gov is in this eternal fight to fuck our country even more, but when I look to my flag I remember that for whatever happens I am portuguese and we can't give up on our country when it needs us.
 

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All wafare is fought for resources,that freedom that others fought (but not in fucking iraq) allowed them to explore those resources.
but the motivation wasn't to "spread democracy" or whatever front they claim these days.
 

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but the motivation wasn't to "spread democracy" or whatever front they claim these days.

Ofc it wasn't why the hell do you think I am against all this "boots on lybia" "boots on egypt" thing where NATO wants to go there for "democracy" like fucks sake everything in the middle east is a proxy gov for SA.
 
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we give people democracy, so that we can corrupt their politicians into giving us the oil better heheheheh
 

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All wafare is fought for resources,that freedom that others fought (but not in fucking iraq) allowed them to explore those resources.



Hell my country is a shithole but I do get up and go help the veterans from the colonial war that suffer from PTSD and bang their heads on the walls asking why did they see their mate's legg blow up and standed there helpless,I do go and buy food for the food bank since my country is known to have a bigger unemployed rate then your country,fuck we even see guys in suits coming to the food banks saying that if they want to look miserable at least they get to use their suits maybe someone will hire them for it. It doesn't matter how much your country can be a shithole,fucks sake mine could be considered the laughting stock for german and austrian people yet we work more hours then they do,we try to go throught everyday knowing our gov is in this eternal fight to fuck our country even more, but when I look to my flag I remember that for whatever happens I am portuguese and we can't give up on our country when it needs us.
you really don't know why Turkey is a bad country at the moment, it's not something you can fix by working really hard in your school or fighting for it. it is so fucking corrupt at the moment there are soldiers who has been sent to east to defend the borders against pkk ypg isis daeş anything you ask and they don't even have ammo. but the terrorists even aren't the biggest problems, we literally have so many bad people as leaders that some of them assist terrorist groups and some of them just cares about money, they are selling our country so they can have the best life they could ever have. I am not even talking about how some Turkish people bad are, if you really want to fix this country you need to get rid of thousands of people and that's something I can't do. Also saying "you should work for your country" is really dumb as well, I have 10 hours of school every weekday and you guys probably have like 6 or something and let me tell you something you guys probably know lots of things while I don't know anything.
 

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you guys probably know lots of things while I don't know anything
So eh, don't wanna get into an argument but you just, like, invalidated yourself.

Anyways, I think we all know how fucked Turkey is with corruption and terrorism. But the answer definetly isn't to run away. That's literally just running away from your problems because it is easier.
 

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So eh, don't wanna get into an argument but you just, like, invalidated yourself.
I have 10 hours of school every weekday and you guys probably have like 6 or something and let me tell you something you guys probably know lots of things while I don't know anything.

I am talking about school, I know Turkey better. I live in it...
 

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So eh, don't wanna get into an argument but you just, like, invalidated yourself.

Anyways, I think we all know how fucked Turkey is with corruption and terrorism. But the answer definetly isn't to run away. That's literally just running away from your problems because it is easier.
Like its cool to say "haha bro just stay in ur country and fix things instead of fleeing XD" but thats easier said than done. Nobody in this community has the willpower, strength or intelligence to start a revolution like poopship is suggesting. And lets not forget most if not all revolutions originate from the higher echelons of society.
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Scotland's Chief Booze Baron Salmond (boasting a wealth of approximately 2.3 billion accrued alcohol units of Buckfast tonic wine, MD2020 and Dragonsoops) has approved an amendment to the Hash Act 2031 demanding that all tenner pills be priced a tenner - no more, no less.
 
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Scotland's Chief Booze Baron Salmond (boasting a wealth of approximately 2.3 billion accrued alcohol units of Buckfast tonic wine, MD2020 and Dragonsoops) has approved an amendment to the Hash Act 2031 demanding that all tenner pills be priced a tenner - no more, no less.

aye they might stay at a tenner but the rancid bastards keep lowering the dosage every year :sob: