why isn't europe free like america?

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implying that EU has done anything as close as dropping atomic bombs on civilian cities

implying that EU has held (((terrorists))) in what is considered an illegally placed prison camp which allegedly forcefully feeds and medicates its prisoners along with torturing them
Let's not forget the time America set up concentration camps for Japanese people.
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Isn't that officially referred to as "the to-do list"
 

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Don't forget your own country's horrible things *cough* India *cough*
About 20 people from where I live won a VC for what they did in India.

And if the sun tries to set on the British empire we'd do to the sun what we did to India.

In the Cause of Humanity: Abolition of suttee and infanticide. Destruction of Dacoits, Thugs, Pindarees, and other such pests of Indian society. There's always a silver lining buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut we did have the odd massacre. But it's not like our well drilled army with cannons and rifles got beaten by some :heyzeus: yelling "zulululululul" in skirts.

Oh. Uhm. Bugger.

Well a true least we didn't declare war on some penguins and lose @Dingo
 
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-i sure hate gandhi-

Well a true least we didn't declare war on some penguins and lose @Dingo

you're confusing us with the french

if we had an actual war with birds we'd skewer them, throw in some shit-tier sauce and blame the whole thing on new zealand

oh and then invade so we could finally get some quality real estate for once
 

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you're confusing us with the french

if we had an actual war with birds we'd skewer them, throw in some shit-tier sauce and blame the whole thing on new zealand

oh and then invade so we could finally get some quality real estate for once
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I hear the joke often enough to know the reference, thanks. I did say "with birds".

anyway if we can eat kangeroos we can eat anything save for snakes

we're not like nz and only armed with 3 rifles and 7000 spears between our entire population right @Jimbo
 

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Let's not forget the time America set up concentration camps for Japanese people.

I'm not declaring that what America, or what the current president Franklin did at 1942 was correct by any means - but I'm not sure in what regard you'd consider a internment camp to a concentration camp.

I don't think we were rendering a final solution to the 110,000 Japanese Americans living in those camps, I think we were deathly afraid of attacks on US soil by those of foreign ancestry who's foreign identity was comprised of those who attacked US citizens.. it was a stupid plan, but no one was worked to death or gassed or killed like in a fucking concentration camp.

I think we fared much better compared to british colonialism..
 
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I'm not declaring that what America, or what the current president Franklin did at 1942 was correct by any means - but I'm not sure in what regard you'd consider a internment camp to a concentration camp.

I don't think we were rendering a final solution to the 110,000 Japanese Americans living in those camps, I think we were deathly afraid of attacks on US soil by those of foreign ancestry who's foreign identity was comprised of those who attacked US citizens.. it was a stupid plan, but no one was worked to death or gassed or killed like in a fucking concentration camp.

I think we fared much better compared to british colonialism..
If they even went close to the fence they were shot. And there's the whole malarkey of your revolution which was in every way unjustifiable and without reason.
 

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what revolution

is this bait
im expecting a "ricky and morty needs a very high iq to understand" tier post from husky about the account being a social expierment that puts vortas 'social engineering' to shame
thats the point its got to with husky
 
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what revolution

is this bait
No, the American revolt against British rule, there are several problems I have with the way it was conducted.

-Thomas Jefferson was the British diplomat for the American people. He sent numerous letters to the British government saying that the people had no complaints to British rule at all while the revolution was happening and he was participating in it.
-The British offered black slaves freedom employment in the army with fair pay in exchange for freedom, the Americans refused to do so as they hated the idea of blacks being free or fighting alongside them, they later repealed this out of desperation.
-America did not have an MP, they disliked being taxed without having appropriate representation in parliament, this is fair criticism, however what people fail to mention is the fact that the only tax they had was the tea tax which was not that much, mind you, while people in England had ridiculous taxation such as the window tax. It was also impossible for an MP to represent the America's as it took 2 weeks to get to there, so an MP would have to travel 2 weeks to get to America, have a vote or resolve local issue's, then travel for 2 weeks back to parliament. It would not work.
-Once again, Thomas Jefferson said that there were no complaints at all.
-"But the British fought them, how did they not know?" Well, as I said, it takes two weeks to get to America, and at the time we were at war with Napoleon, so the soldiers were trying to get help from Britian however the British had already sent messages telling them to fall back to England to help fight Napoleon. Several messages were sent however with the conflict of information from both Thomas Jefferson and several British soldiers the British government didn't know what was going on, they thought that it was simply civil unrest and not a revolution. Honestly one regiment of British Grenadiers would have wiped the revolution, easily.
-Several French regiments helped fight the British during the revoltion, this further confused the British at home which made them think it was the French that were the major problem. Without the French the Americans would not have had enough support to win the war, at all.
-In the British army, at the time, you could buy your rank. This meant that officers were often just snobby rich people and were not that great until properly trained at Sandhurst. Goerge Washington was willing to join as an officer and had the money to do so, however he was such a shit general that the British army refused to take him.
 

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No, the American revolt against British rule, there are several problems I have with the way it was conducted.

-Thomas Jefferson was the British diplomat for the American people. He sent numerous letters to the British government saying that the people had no complaints to British rule at all while the revolution was happening and he was participating in it.
-The British offered black slaves freedom employment in the army with fair pay in exchange for freedom, the Americans refused to do so as they hated the idea of blacks being free or fighting alongside them, they later repealed this out of desperation.
-America did not have an MP, they disliked being taxed without having appropriate representation in parliament, this is fair criticism, however what people fail to mention is the fact that the only tax they had was the tea tax which was not that much, mind you, while people in England had ridiculous taxation such as the window tax. It was also impossible for an MP to represent the America's as it took 2 weeks to get to there, so an MP would have to travel 2 weeks to get to America, have a vote or resolve local issue's, then travel for 2 weeks back to parliament. It would not work.
-Once again, Thomas Jefferson said that there were no complaints at all.
-"But the British fought them, how did they not know?" Well, as I said, it takes two weeks to get to America, and at the time we were at war with Napoleon, so the soldiers were trying to get help from Britian however the British had already sent messages telling them to fall back to England to help fight Napoleon. Several messages were sent however with the conflict of information from both Thomas Jefferson and several British soldiers the British government didn't know what was going on, they thought that it was simply civil unrest and not a revolution. Honestly one regiment of British Grenadiers would have wiped the revolution, easily.
-Several French regiments helped fight the British during the revoltion, this further confused the British at home which made them think it was the French that were the major problem. Without the French the Americans would not have had enough support to win the war, at all.
-In the British army, at the time, you could buy your rank. This meant that officers were often just snobby rich people and were not that great until properly trained at Sandhurst. Goerge Washington was willing to join as an officer and had the money to do so, however he was such a shit general that the British army refused to take him.
>wanting independence because you don't want to be taxed to fuck due to the country that owns you being in a state of economic failure is not a valid reason according to a 16 guy on the internet.

also citation needed
 

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>wanting independence because you don't want to be taxed to fuck due to the country that owns you being in a state of economic failure is not a valid reason according to a 16 guy on the internet.
-America did not have an MP, they disliked being taxed without having appropriate representation in parliament, this is fair criticism, however what people fail to mention is the fact that the only tax they had was the tea tax which was not that much, mind you, while people in England had ridiculous taxation such as the window tax. It was also impossible for an MP to represent the America's as it took 2 weeks to get to there, so an MP would have to travel 2 weeks to get to America, have a vote or resolve local issue's, then travel for 2 weeks back to parliament. It would not work.
They were not "taxed to fuck" they had the least taxation of any area under British rule.
 
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sorry but did my government give you permission to secede from my county?
no? that’s what i thought American scum. you are not a legitimate revolution.
 

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sorry but did my government give you permission to secede from my county?
no? that’s what i thought American scum. you are not a legitimate revolution.
There was litterely no reason to revolt, 1/3rd of Americans at the time didn't want independance, which was one of the reasons they had to resort to getting slave help, the British also suffered from a lack of men however they did also have Americans sign up for their cause.