why isn't europe free like america?

[Rabid]

sorry but did my government give you permission to secede from my county?
no? that’s what i thought American scum. you are not a legitimate revolution.

They didn't choose the tea life

the tea life chose them

 

[Jer]

my country is better than your country

 

[Oxy[Morons]]

my country is better than your country

new zealand is better than the uk, yes.

 

[gigi]

1/3rd of Americans at the time didn't want independance

what about the 2/3 that did? i guess theyre banned from democracy for having incorrect opinions?

 

[Husky]

what about the 2/3 that did? i guess theyre banned from democracy for having incorrect opinions?

Sorry my mistake, 1/3rd of Americans DID want independance. 2/3rd's did not.

 

[Angel]

Fucking brasilos!!

 

[PilotBland]

No, the American revolt against British rule, there are several problems I have with the way it was conducted.

-Thomas Jefferson was the British diplomat for the American people. He sent numerous letters to the British government saying that the people had no complaints to British rule at all while the revolution was happening and he was participating in it.
-The British offered black slaves freedom employment in the army with fair pay in exchange for freedom, the Americans refused to do so as they hated the idea of blacks being free or fighting alongside them, they later repealed this out of desperation.
-America did not have an MP, they disliked being taxed without having appropriate representation in parliament, this is fair criticism, however what people fail to mention is the fact that the only tax they had was the tea tax which was not that much, mind you, while people in England had ridiculous taxation such as the window tax. It was also impossible for an MP to represent the America's as it took 2 weeks to get to there, so an MP would have to travel 2 weeks to get to America, have a vote or resolve local issue's, then travel for 2 weeks back to parliament. It would not work.
-Once again, Thomas Jefferson said that there were no complaints at all.
-"But the British fought them, how did they not know?" Well, as I said, it takes two weeks to get to America, and at the time we were at war with Napoleon, so the soldiers were trying to get help from Britian however the British had already sent messages telling them to fall back to England to help fight Napoleon. Several messages were sent however with the conflict of information from both Thomas Jefferson and several British soldiers the British government didn't know what was going on, they thought that it was simply civil unrest and not a revolution. Honestly one regiment of British Grenadiers would have wiped the revolution, easily.
-Several French regiments helped fight the British during the revoltion, this further confused the British at home which made them think it was the French that were the major problem. Without the French the Americans would not have had enough support to win the war, at all.
-In the British army, at the time, you could buy your rank. This meant that officers were often just snobby rich people and were not that great until properly trained at Sandhurst. Goerge Washington was willing to join as an officer and had the money to do so, however he was such a shit general that the British army refused to take him.

so it's bait

 

[PilotBland]

yeah husky is just basically shit flinging I guess

the only thing I'd agree on is France being our bros and they still are our bros to this day

bless our French brethren we wouldn't be here

 

[Deleted member 442]

USA NUMERO UNO JAJAJAJA

U GIB MONI PLS OR I REPORT U 2 UN

LOL WE GOT NATO BY THE BALLS DO SOMETHIN', WHERE WE GO YOU GO, TIME TO INVADE AUSTRALIA.

 

[Husky]

yeah husky is just basically shit flinging I guess

the only thing I'd agree on is France being our bros and they still are our bros to this day

bless our French brethren we wouldn't be here

You actually have the same electoral system as them, I guess Washington took some influence from his comrade's.

 

[2738647239865]

what an awful fucking thread

 

[TheRobsterDJ]

fuck the cops

 

[Deleted member 61]

@Husky thanks for informing me true facts about how the reason Americans rebelled against the British was because they wanted inter-racial military, pay 4 rank gameplay, and long distance governance.

Well, at least to produced one of the greatest political documents in the history of mankind.

Oh well..

OT: Net neutrality = more government control = less individual/corporate freedom. If it's abused, it will lose my support, if used to cheapen prices, offer different types of packages for lower prices and increase coverage, then I'll stand by my word in support of gutting net neutrality. Pretty simple.

 

[Redhunter]

You actually have the same electoral system as them, I guess Washington took some influence from his comrade's.

France uses proportional representation for The National Assembly (that's the lower house by the way) and FPTP for Presidential Elections but in a two round system - the states use FPTP for congressional and senate seats and FPTP in the electoral college system for presidential elections.

They are not comparable lmfao

 

[Husky]

France uses proportional representation for The National Assembly (that's the lower house by the way) and FPTP for Presidential Elections but in a two round system - the states use FPTP for congressional and senate seats and FPTP in the electoral college system for presidential elections.

They are not comparable lmfao

No. Hey use the electoral college. Two very different things, you're talking about how the person votes.

 

[Redhunter]

No. Hey use the electoral college. Two very different things, you're talking about how the person votes.

No... France does not use the electoral college. It's a system exclusive to the USA - The only time there was ever a similar system in place in France was post WW2 when France had to get a head of state while the country was in state of disrepair with a mass gap in population.

Also the electoral college is part of the US voting system as it's the votes of the people which lead to the electee voting for The President.

 

[Deleted member 442]

Also the electoral college is part of the US voting system as it's the votes of the people which lead to the electee voting for The President.

Even this isn't entirely true, the electoral system doesn't always reflect the will of the voter. Many states use winner-take-all in combination with first past the post, if you win the state (even marginally) you get ALL of the electoral votes of a given state. This is the result of the Constitution giving individual states the right to micro-manage how the electoral college functions. Some states appropriate based on popular vote in accordance with congressional districts, such as Maine. A number of other states are looking to also tie their electoral votes based on popular vote by means of an interstate agreement.

To a degree, it's marginally reflective of the popular vote of the state, but to another it isn't because of the winner-take-all system.

As a result we have battleground states that we know as swing states because they can go either way and it's hard to predict how they'll go, and we have bastions for particular parties, like the west coast and New England, and various parts of the mid west being Democrat strongholds and much of the south and fly over states being Republican strongholds. This also leads to candidates ignoring strongholds and placing most of their attention on said battleground states, and also leads to a false sense of safety, as we saw when Hillary lost Wisconsin, a state that often votes for the Democratic party.

It drives me bonkers when people go "WE GOTTA GET RID OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND JUST USE THE POPULAR VOTE" when the electoral college is enshrined in the Constitution in order to balance out urban population centers and those that aren't massive cities or highly populated states. It needs to be tweaked, but that relies on individual states to tweak it accordingly. Maine took a great step in that regard, so that one nominee cannot simply grab all the electors just because they had a marginal lead.

 

[Hadouken]

its because brits pulled a #brexit back in a couple months or years ago idk and then the rest of the world was like 'lol' as they fell into serious debt and their currency value only got lower and lower

plus europe is the bitch who tried to take away our independence

once an anti-freedomist, always an anti-freedomist.

get out of my thread.

 

[Angel]

its because brits pulled a #brexit back in a couple months or years ago idk and then the rest of the world was like 'lol' as they fell into serious debt and their currency value only got lower and lower

plus europe is the bitch who tried to take away our independence

once an anti-freedomist, always an anti-freedomist.

get out of my thread.

lmao
how is texas?

 

[hi im gosu]

its because brits pulled a #brexit back in a couple months or years ago idk and then the rest of the world was like 'lol' as they fell into serious debt and their currency value only got lower and lower

plus europe is the bitch who tried to take away our independence

once an anti-freedomist, always an anti-freedomist.

get out of my thread.

i think you forgot who made your country to begin with